WHITESOXRANDY Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Now, most of the big name pitching has been moved. Let's talk about what teams might be after Danks, Floyd and Thornton. It looks to me like Boston, Yankees, Baltimore, Texas and Nationals are pretty much the teams to deal with. Red Sox need the most pitching help in the rotation and the pen. Yanks could also use both but not as much. Baltimore has always wanted Floyd. Texas, we know, wants Danks back. The Nationals need a starter. There are other teams out there that will likely be interested in an elite LH set-up man for only a $ 12 mil. investment. If the Sox are truly rebuilding now then I don't see why they would keep Thornton and Danks past the winter. Danks is in demand and the return only drops once the season starts. He clearly isn't going to re-sign with the Sox so logic says...trade now. Thornton is not needed on a team that is going nowhere and the salary relief is much needed. They should be able to get a good prospect for him. How good remains debatable. Still, no reason to keep. Gavin is under control for 2 more years so the Sox might want to keep him for this year so the team isn't guaranteed last place without him and Danks. Also, it would give the young guys another year to develop. I would hold onto him 1 more year. Of course, all depends on the offers the Sox get. Any mystery teams not listed here? Does anybody think that the Sox keep all 3 of these guys? Or, even 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 QUOTE (WHITESOXRANDY @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 12:10 PM) Now, most of the big name pitching has been moved. Let's talk about what teams might be after Danks, Floyd and Thornton. It looks to me like Boston, Yankees, Baltimore, Texas and Nationals are pretty much the teams to deal with. Red Sox need the most pitching help in the rotation and the pen. Yanks could also use both but not as much. Baltimore has always wanted Floyd. Texas, we know, wants Danks back. The Nationals need a starter. There are other teams out there that will likely be interested in an elite LH set-up man for only a $ 12 mil. investment. If the Sox are truly rebuilding now then I don't see why they would keep Thornton and Danks past the winter. Danks is in demand and the return only drops once the season starts. He clearly isn't going to re-sign with the Sox so logic says...trade now. Thornton is not needed on a team that is going nowhere and the salary relief is much needed. They should be able to get a good prospect for him. How good remains debatable. Still, no reason to keep. Gavin is under control for 2 more years so the Sox might want to keep him for this year so the team isn't guaranteed last place without him and Danks. Also, it would give the young guys another year to develop. I would hold onto him 1 more year. Of course, all depends on the offers the Sox get. Any mystery teams not listed here? Does anybody think that the Sox keep all 3 of these guys? Or, even 2? Who cares about last place if you're rebuilding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) The D'backs and Rockies are also going hard after pitching. If Seattle signs Fielder they will be looking for another SP between Felix and Pineda. Pitchers available in a trade now - James Shields Matt Garza Jair Jurrjens Ervin Santana Gio Gonzalez Trevor Cahill John Danks Jon Niese Gavin Floyd -edit to add Jurrjens, forgot he was on the block too Edited December 8, 2011 by IowaSoxFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 06:45 PM) The D'backs and Rockies are also going hard after pitching. If Seattle signs Fielder they will be looking for another SP between Felix and Pineda. Pitchers available in a trade now - James Shields Matt Garza Ervin Santana Gio Gonzalez Trevor Cahill John Danks Jon Niese Gavin Floyd I don't think anyone signed Edwin Jax yet have they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 The D'backs and Rockies are also going hard after pitching. If Seattle signs Fielder they will be looking for another SP between Felix and Pineda. Pitchers available in a trade now - James Shields Matt Garza Ervin Santana Gio Gonzalez Trevor Cahill John Danks Jon Niese Gavin Floyd Seattle would be stupid IMO to ink the Prince. I don't think they are 1-2 players away from the playoffs. ESP after what LAA did, and the Rangers are still players as well. I think the Rangers go hard after one of those pitchers, after today's news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Scratch the nationals off of that list. Unless they offer Bryce Harper, Kenny is going to give them a hardy f*** you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 12:58 PM) Scratch the nationals off of that list. Unless they offer Bryce Harper, Kenny is going to give them a hardy f*** you. Not sure he is in a position to do that, the Nats may match up with the Sox better than most other teams due to the amount of pitching in their system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) Scratch the nationals off of that list. Unless they offer Bryce Harper, Kenny is going to give them a hardy f*** you. You sure Kenny wouldn't want Strasburg(sp) to be included as well? Edited December 8, 2011 by VictoryMC98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 01:04 PM) Not sure he is in a position to do that, the Nats may match up with the Sox better than most other teams due to the amount of pitching in their system. QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 01:07 PM) You sure Kenny wouldn't want Strasburg(sp) to be included as well? After what went down at the 09 deadline, no way Kenny is dealing with Rizzo unless it is a complete screw job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 02:11 PM) After what went down at the 10 deadline, no way Kenny is dealing with Rizzo unless it is a complete screw job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 After what went down at the 09 deadline, no way Kenny is dealing with Rizzo unless it is a complete screw job. Is this the Dunn for Beckham deal? I didn't read the full details.. can you please explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Yeah the '10 deal. Point stays the same. Kenny is not on terms with Rizzo like he is with most everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Hellickson is also on the trade market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) Few more pitchers to add to the list, of who might be moved this off season Carl Pavano Franciscio Liriano Fausto Carmona Wandy Rodriguez Jeremy Guthrie Also some reports has King Felix on the market Edited December 8, 2011 by SOXOBAMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 01:33 PM) Hellickson is also on the trade market Yeah, I don't believe that for a second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Yeah, I don't believe that for a second. Reports out of Tampa Bay today says that Rays are open minded to trading Hellickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 01:40 PM) Reports out of Tampa Bay today says that Rays are open minded to trading Hellickson Again, I don't believe it at all. That's simply not the way Tampa operates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Again, I don't believe it at all. That's simply not the way Tampa operates. Also, Jon Heyman is reporting it as well.. I don't believe that the Rays will trade him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 01:44 PM) Also, Jon Heyman is reporting it as well.. I don't believe that the Rays will trade him I'm not saying you're lying about it being reported. I'll take your word from it. But not a thing will come from it. Hellickson is not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 AJ is also on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 AJ is also on the market. Does the Marlins need a C? My wife would kill KW, if they move him.. of course she doesn't get the dynamics of the business side of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Pretty sure he's talking about Burnett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Pretty sure he's talking about Burnett. Gotcha, that would make a ton of sense since Burnett is a pitcher.. Stupid me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 01:50 PM) Does the Marlins need a C? My wife would kill KW, if they move him.. of course she doesn't get the dynamics of the business side of things. Is your wife a male poster on this site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 02:44 PM) Also, Jon Heyman is reporting it as well.. I don't believe that the Rays will trade him Sure you don't mean Wade Davis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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