elrockinMT Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 08:33 PM) I thought they said that Cespedes wasn't interested in Miami? Not to generalize or anything, but I would think any Cuban ball player would want to go to Miami. Obviously Miami would want them too. What is your take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 04:58 PM) Not to generalize or anything, but I would think any Cuban ball player would want to go to Miami. Obviously Miami would want them too. What is your take? He's specifically said he'd rather not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 05:11 PM) He's specifically said he'd rather not A lot of people have said that, but they threw enough money around to overcome that in the case of Reyes and Buehrle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 05:11 PM) A lot of people have said that, but they threw enough money around to overcome that in the case of Reyes and Buehrle. I didn't say he said he wouldn't go there. He said he'd rather not. Enough money i'm sure would sway his decision. But a comparable deal would probably pull him elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 10:08 AM) Ilitch is old and wants to win. He spends more of his own money than any other owner. They haven't made a profit in like ten years supposedly. Meh, just like the Marlins didn't make a profit either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 07:47 PM) Meh, just like the Marlins didn't make a profit either. I think the Marlins have made plenty of money the last 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 07:26 PM) I think the Marlins have made plenty of money the last 5 years. That's what he was saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 10:08 PM) That's what he was saying. Decent chance they lose money next year if the don't move Reyes and Buehrle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein Doing all the Yoenis work in the last 48 hours, I talked to a lot of people about Gerardo Concepion. 8 minutes ago Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein General thought on Concepcion is the same. Highly polished for his age w/ advanced control and secondaries, but not blow away stuff. 8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein Many teams in on Concepcion; don't have great feel for the market. Not Top 100 guy. 6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein Could move quickly for a teenager, but STILL A TEENAGER. RT @jklein78: @Kevin_Goldstein what's the range of timeline for Concepcion? 4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Edited February 1, 2012 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 My predictions on where the 3 Cuban players will sign Cespedes - Marlins Soler - Cubs Concepcion- Yankees. I hope that the Sox sign Soler & Concepcion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein Doing all the Yoenis work in the last 48 hours, I talked to a lot of people about Gerardo Concepion. 8 minutes ago Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein General thought on Concepcion is the same. Highly polished for his age w/ advanced control and secondaries, but not blow away stuff. 8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein Many teams in on Concepcion; don't have great feel for the market. Not Top 100 guy. 6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein Could move quickly for a teenager, but STILL A TEENAGER. RT @jklein78: @Kevin_Goldstein what's the range of timeline for Concepcion? 4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply I thought that Concepcion was close to signing with a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 11:26 PM) My predictions on where the 3 Cuban players will sign Cespedes - Marlins Soler - Cubs Concepcion- Yankees. I hope that the Sox sign Soler & Concepcion Cespedes- Cubs Soler - Red Sox Concepcion - White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 11:43 PM) Cespedes- Cubs Soler - Red Sox Concepcion - White Sox I'm okay with that. The White Sox need anything they can get that resembles depth, both pitching and position players. I'm sure KG isn't as high on Concepcion as others due to him being a polished "pitchability" guy. Kevin loves his tools and upside. That's his M.O., and that's fine. Even if Concepcion's ceiling is that of a 3 or 4, it's still better than the majority of the pitching in the system currently. Sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 11:43 PM) Cespedes- Cubs Soler - Red Sox Concepcion - White Sox Cespedes- Yankees Soler - Cubs Concepcion - White Sox Soler is the guy I want, along with Concepcion, and I think Cespedes is too old for what Theo is looking for in prospects. Concepcion seems like a typical Sox move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 11:49 PM) I'm okay with that. The White Sox need anything they can get that resembles depth, both pitching and position players. I'm sure KG isn't as high on Concepcion as others due to him being a polished "pitchability" guy. Kevin loves his tools and upside. That's his M.O., and that's fine. Even if Concepcion's ceiling is that of a 3 or 4, it's still better than the majority of the pitching in the system currently. Sign him. Agreed. Good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 11:51 PM) Cespedes- Yankees Soler - Cubs Concepcion - White Sox Soler is the guy I want, along with Concepcion, and I think Cespedes is too old for what Theo is looking for in prospects. Concepcion seems like a typical Sox move. Believe it or not Soler has more teams chasing him than Cespedes. The Sox are in the mix, but Concepcion seems to be their target, FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 With a Concepcion signing, a decent return if Gavin is traded, and the 13th pick in June I could start to feel a bit better about the farm. Hopefully it's ready to churn out some MLB players or trade chips in the next few seasons. I'd like to see some young cost controlled talent to join players like Sale, Dayan, and Reed around the time Dunn and Rios are gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 01:34 AM) With a Concepcion signing, a decent return if Gavin is traded, and the 13th pick in June I could start to feel a bit better about the farm. Hopefully it's ready to churn out some MLB players or trade chips in the next few seasons. I'd like to see some young cost controlled talent to join players like Sale, Dayan, and Reed around the time Dunn and Rios are gone.Not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 NO mention of Soler ChiTribRogers Phil Rogers Both #Cubs and #WhiteSox continue to pursue Cuban lefty Gerardo Concepcion, as well as Yoenis Cespedes. Concepcion will pick a team soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein Those are favorites. O's, White Sox, Jays, mystery team looms. RT @MrBseball3: @Kevin_Goldstein gut feeling on Cespedes? Marlins? Cubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 08:54 AM) NO mention of Soler Is he a free agent yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 08:08 AM) Is he a free agent yet? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 10:47 AM) No. Then that's a very good reason why the Sox might not be pursuing him yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 The full version of the interview sounds like vintage Kenny. http://blogs.suntimes.com/whitesox/ Coy Williams: Sox GM on Cespedes et al By Daryl Van Schouwen on January 27, 2012 9:17 PM | 1 Comment | No TrackBacks General manager Ken Williams was coy when asked about prize Cuban free agent outfielders Yeonis Cespedes and Jorge Soler and lefthander Gerardo Concepcion. It was hard to know if Williams thought the Sox were in the mix for their services and wanted to lay low or whether he knew the Sox wouldn't be able to afford one or all of them. The Sox are known to have interest and are considered to be one of the teams in the mix for Cespedes, although many consider the Cubs to be front-runners. "I don't know who you are talking about,'' Williams told reporters when asked about the Cubans. You know, Cespedes, the five-tool Bo Jackson type center fielder. "Those are all just rumors,'' Williams said. "I don't know what you guys are talking about.'' Huh? "Who were these guys? Where are they from?'' Cuba. Someone said you watched Concepcion in person. "Somebody said I was there,'' Williams said. "I don't know what you are talking about.'' Reporters laugh, and Williams almost almost spits out his water suppressing a chuckle. Cespedes is the guy who might cost you $50 million. "Is that the left-handed pitcher?'' No, that's Concepcion. Cespedes is the 26-year-old Bo Jackson. The one Dayan Viciedo is recruiting. "You think I should check into them?'' Earlier, Williams said the Sox money supply is tapped. He doesn't have cash for a free-agent utility infielder, he said. Soler, 19, and Concepcion, 18, will come cheaper and would help replenish a farm system in need of an injection of talent. The Cubans came up later during question-and-answer time with fans. It was more of the same from Williams. "Who are they? Are they any good?'' he asked. With that, new manger Robin Ventura turned toward Williams and said, "Should we be scouting them?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 That's a departure from the KW of the last 6 months or so. For some reason it makes me feel like we're going to end up with one of those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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