caulfield12 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 After the Fukudome experience, you'd have to think that organization would still be a little bit gunshy about an international FA outfielder, we shall see. New F.O., new scouting system in places, Ricketts will certainly trust Epstein's judgement to a large extent for at least 2-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) After the Fukudome experience, you'd have to think that organization would still be a little bit gunshy about an international FA outfielder, we shall see. New F.O., new scouting system in place, Ricketts will certainly trust Epstein's judgement to a large extent for at least 2-3 years. Edited January 18, 2012 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 03:37 PM) I wonder if the White Sox were to sign him...if it would be like the Rios situation, where many would be arguing we were trying to sign him largely to prevent him from going to the Tigers (or Cubs)? What's his current batting line? Why the f*** would we care if he went to the cubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 07:45 PM) After the Fukudome experience, you'd have to think that organization would still be a little bit gunshy about an international FA outfielder, we shall see. New F.O., new scouting system in places, Ricketts will certainly trust Epstein's judgement to a large extent for at least 2-3 years. Why would the new front office and ownership group be concerned about a mistake the previous regime made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Don't need another young superstar on the Northside....we need our own to counter with. Second, probably right....past mistakes won't be held against Epstein. But how long will it take before JR opens up the purse strings again on any player (besides Danks) from outside the organization making $10+ million per season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 11:49 PM) Why would the new front office and ownership group be concerned about a mistake the previous regime made? That's what I was thinking, then again, there is also Matsuzaka, so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Matt Clement, Mike Cameron, John Lackey, Bobby Jenks, Julio Lugo, J D Drew...etc. Not to mention the Carl Crawford disaster from last year. A lot of contracts reminiscent of Soriano, Zambrano, Fukudome, Dempster, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 03:21 PM) @scotgregor On his own, Dayan Viciedo has talked with fellow Cubans Yoennis Cespedes and Jorge Soler, trying to sell them on signing with #WhiteSox. I still have yet to figure out your avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/whitesox-ta...tm_medium=email Viciedo has reached out to Cespedes, Soler January 17, 2012, 3:26 pm Dayan Viciedo will join Alexei Ramirez to give the White Sox two Cubans in their 2012 starting lineup. (US Presswire) JJ STANKEVITZ csnchicago.png While the White Sox may not be the frontrunner to sign Yoenis Cespedes, it's not for a lack of effort from fellow Cuban Dayan Viciedo. The 22-year-old Viciedo, speaking through translator Jackson Miranda, told members of the media in a conference call Tuesday he contacted Cespedes and 19-year-old outfielder Jorge Soler to pitch the White Sox organization to them. "I have reached out to both of their camps, Soler and Cespedes and put in a good word," Viciedo said. He "told them how great the organization is and how much of a great fit they would be if they come over and join us." Viciedo wasn't prompted by the White Sox to recruit his fellow countrymen. Instead, he contacted them on his own, Cuban to Cuban. "This is actually something about me reaching out to my fellow Cubans and really wishing the best for them," Viciedo said. "As of right now, they're not signed and I can't tell them which way to go, but I can just give them my advice, especially having come in a similar situation that they're in. "And also just tell them how much I would really enjoy having them on the team with us here and how good the organization is. I think it'd just be a great fit." As it stands, the Cubs have shown the most interest in signing Cespedes, but the White Sox were listed by the 26-year-old earlier in the month as one of six teams that had shown strong interest. Soler hasn't garnered a ton of attention, as unlike Cespedes, he's not major-league ready. But if the Sox land him, he'd instantly become the best position player prospect in their farm system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 10:57 PM) Don't need another young superstar on the Northside....we need our own to counter with. Second, probably right....past mistakes won't be held against Epstein. But how long will it take before JR opens up the purse strings again on any player (besides Danks) from outside the organization making $10+ million per season? The last team on the planet we should be worried about matching is the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 11:57 PM) Don't need another young superstar on the Northside....we need our own to counter with. Second, probably right....past mistakes won't be held against Epstein. But how long will it take before JR opens up the purse strings again on any player (besides Danks) from outside the organization making $10+ million per season? If we don't make any salary adding moves, we're going to be sitting close to $80 million in payroll next year once Peavy and Pierzynski and Thornton's contracts end. So, I'd say next offseason we'll be in that market, depending on who succeeds and who collapses this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 06:39 AM) I still have yet to figure out your avatar. Based God is a catchphrase often used in image macros referring to rap artist Lil B. The overlaid text typically mentions Based God “f***ing b****es”, or say “thank you Based God” with an image of someone crying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 08:23 AM) <!--quoteo(post=2536981:date=Jan 18, 2012 -> 06:39 AM:name=Milkman delivers)-->QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 06:39 AM) <!--quotec-->I still have yet to figure out your avatar. Based God is a catchphrase often used in image macros referring to rap artist Lil B. The overlaid text typically mentions Based God “f***ing b****es”, or say “thank you Based God” with an image of someone crying. Haha, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 07:39 AM) I still have yet to figure out your avatar. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/based-god NSFW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 It would be nice if both guys bought into the history of Cuban success and signed for a discount. Send Minnie, Alexi and Dayan down there and have them watch 2005 footage of the Bronze Titan ending with the cigar on the bus showered with the praise of Americans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 Interesting on Cespedes http://baseballdeworld.com/tag/cuba/ Apart from the fact that the Island holds only 11 million inhabitants, and that no foreign player takes part on the tournament, Cuba also suffers the brain drain of many of its talented players, since many of them leave the country seeking the handsome contract offers of Major League Baseball teams – Cuban baseball is supposedly amateur. Eight squads would put the bar higher and would cause the amount of homers to drop as the quality of pitching, so scattered all over the country, would make hitters face good hurlers more frequently. An example of what this causes is that one of last year’s homerun record setters, Yoennis Cespedes – who fled the country and currently tries to make his way to the Major Leagues –, managed 33 blasts: none of them against quality pitching (he hit none vs throwers that were members of the 2010 or 2011 Cuban National teams), and he failed to produce in the clutch, since none of his shots came after the seventh frame. Still, he tied for the lead in homeruns and led the league in RBI’s. In addition, in his first two postseason games he struck out six times. The competitive level of the main championship of Cuban baseball has dropped considerably, and that, along with the other countries’ constant development, has caused Cuba to lose every major tournament since their victory in the 2007 Pan Am Games. People are questioning in the streets whether a second shorter domestic event with not so many teams will be played prior to the 2013 World Baseball Classic, an event that saw the Cubans make it to the finals in the first edition of 2006, and be left out of medals (5th place) in 2009’s version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Look like he'll do great next to Soriano they can beat up the AAAA pitchers and get shut out against anyone decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideDon48 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 07:34 AM) The last team on the planet we should be worried about matching is the Cubs. But what about the BP Cup? Edited January 19, 2012 by SouthsideDon48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Greetings and Salutations, Cespedes first bomb in Quisquella Stadium which is supposed to be a big stadium. I hope the Tank does well for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Welcome back Cubano... what else can you tell us about Cespedes and Soler to get us all excited?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Cubano @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 10:03 PM) Greetings and Salutations, Cespedes first bomb in Quisquella Stadium which is supposed to be a big stadium. I hope the Tank does well for you. QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 10:43 PM) Welcome back Cubano... Yes, glad to see you back here. Keep us informed about these Cuban prospects! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Cubano @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 09:03 PM) Greetings and Salutations, Cespedes first bomb in Quisquella Stadium which is supposed to be a big stadium. I hope the Tank does well for you. From the set-up, load, swing and showboat that was very Andruw Jones-esque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideDon48 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Cubano @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 09:03 PM) Greetings and Salutations, Cespedes first bomb in Quisquella Stadium which is supposed to be a big stadium. I hope the Tank does well for you. CUBANO!!!! Welcome back!!! I've always hoped you'd come back and share your thoughts on more of the Cuban free agents. I always tremendously enjoyed your posts the last time you were here, you were one of my favorite posters. Welcome back, dude, hope you stay around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Cubano @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 07:03 PM) Greetings and Salutations, Cespedes first bomb in Quisquella Stadium which is supposed to be a big stadium. I hope the Tank does well for you. Nice - we where just speaking fondly of you Cubano! We missed ya brotha. Welcome Back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Cubano @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 07:03 PM) Cespedes first bomb in Quisquella Stadium which is supposed to be a big stadium. Sign him. Sign him now. How much do you suspect him to receive Cubano? Any inside track on where he lands? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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