Jordan4life_2007 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 09:37 AM) By nailed it, I assume you mean "pretended that Orlando would be thrilled to take on a S*** F*** of money long-term". It's quite obvious a s*** contract like Hedo would be part of the package. I was more or less talking about him referencing all the wannabes from the 90's that came up short because of Michael. Miami is going to be in the way for a while. I'm not saying the Bulls are a wannabe - yet. But another conference finals loss to the Heat and it's going to start looking like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 10:39 AM) If it meant keeping Dwight, then yes. Clearly, since the article was talking about the Bulls trading for Howard, the answer would be no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 09:46 AM) It's quite obvious a s*** contract like Hedo would be part of the package. I was more or less talking about him referencing all the wannabes from the 90's that came up short because of Michael. Miami is going to be in the way for a while. I'm not saying the Bulls are a wannabe - yet. But another conference finals loss to the Heat and it's going to start looking like that. Miami has to win something before you crown them in the Bulls of the 90's category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 10:46 AM) It's quite obvious a s*** contract like Hedo would be part of the package. I was more or less talking about him referencing all the wannabes from the 90's that came up short because of Michael. Miami is going to be in the way for a while. I'm not saying the Bulls are a wannabe - yet. But another conference finals loss to the Heat and it's going to start looking like that. Even if the Bulls took on Hedo, the Magic would have to take on a S***F*** of Money. The only way the Bulls could match those 2 deals would be Deng + Noah. Thus, the Magic would be taking on a guy who is signed for 2 years at big money and a guy who is signed for 4 years at big money. Or Boozer, but that's just silly. The only way Howard comes to the Bulls is if they can get the magic to absorb a metric ton of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 09:53 AM) Miami has to win something before you crown them in the Bulls of the 90's category. Yeah, because that's exactly what I did. The Heat could lose in the finals the next five years. This is about the Bulls and their ability to take out Miami as currently constructed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 09:57 AM) Yeah, because that's exactly what I did. The Heat could lose in the finals the next five years. This is about the Bulls and their ability to take out Miami as currently constructed. LeBron is already crying about going back to Cleveland. I'm still not ready to cede even the east to them yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 11:01 AM) LeBron is already crying about going back to Cleveland. I'm still not ready to cede even the east to them yet. I might lean more towards thinking you were right if the Bulls could come out of the AS break and put together 10 or so games where everyone was just healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 10:02 AM) I might lean more towards thinking you were right if the Bulls could come out of the AS break and put together 10 or so games where everyone was just healthy. If they had played to a greater separation when they played earlier this year I might be more worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 09:06 AM) http://dailyherald.com/article/20120226/sports/702269784/ I know this is redundant now. But who cares. Imrem nailed it. Do it. That article was awful and all over the place. "the whole idea is moot, but the Bulls should do it!" "Didn't Dwight and Rose look good on the court together? THey could totally take on LeBron and Wade" (who were ALSO ON THE COURT) Moronic drivel to result in web page hits and ad revenue. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 10:33 AM) That article was awful and all over the place. "the whole idea is moot, but the Bulls should do it!" "Didn't Dwight and Rose look good on the court together? THey could totally take on LeBron and Wade" (who were ALSO ON THE COURT) Moronic drivel to result in web page hits and ad revenue. That is all. There is no Jeremy Lin mention in the article. That alone makes it decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 10:42 AM) There is no Jeremy Lin mention in the article. That alone makes it decent. I was happy to swap Lin for Ty Lawson in our fantasy league. I got a consistent contributor for a guy I think is going to be all over the place the rest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 10:48 AM) I was happy to swap Lin for Ty Lawson in our fantasy league. I got a consistent contributor for a guy I think is going to be all over the place the rest of the year. Awful trade. Lin/Wesbrook on the same team? That's good for about 50 turnovers a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 11:11 AM) Awful trade. Lin/Wesbrook on the same team? That's good for about 50 turnovers a week. Any good team is already punting turnovers. My main worry was Lin looking like a grade schooler against the Heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Derrick Rose can dance, for those who dont already know. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZczejHLBaG4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 12:19 PM) Any good team is already punting turnovers. My main worry was Lin looking like a grade schooler against the Heat. I know that. I'm just saying the turnover category is the only stat that will be influenced in this travesty of a transaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 12:22 PM) Derrick Rose can dance, for those who dont already know. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZczejHLBaG4 If he didn't, then he would be no friend of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 12:22 PM) Derrick Rose can dance, for those who dont already know. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZczejHLBaG4 I don't think that's Derrick Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) I know Balta already posted the link but this is a very interesting read...yes it's a meaningless game but how could you not want to take the last shot? ORLANDO, Fla. – With the way Kobe Bryant mercilessly rode LeBron James in those final minutes, the way Kobe demanded to defend LeBron, the Miami Heat’s star had to shoot the ball. Dwyane Wade had broken Kobe’s nose in the third quarter, and now it was James’ turn to break his spirit in the fourth. After all, this was an All-Star game, and ultimately the moment everyone had waited to witness. Game’s on the line, Bryant on James. There’s nowhere to go, nowhere to hide. Most of all, there’s nothing to lose. Take the shot, live with the consequences. And truth be told, there are no consequences for failing on a long 3-pointer in the final seconds of an All-Star game, no consequences for driving past Bryant and missing a runner or missing a pull-up jumper. No one would’ve remembered a missed shot down two points to the Western Conference, but a long, wayward, get-this-ball-out-of-my-hands pass lingers longer. Six seconds left, the ball swung back to James, and he threw a long crosscourt pass that the West’s Blake Griffin grabbed before it could ever reach Wade. The expressions on Bryant and Carmelo Anthony’s faces – one an opponent and an enemy, one a teammate and a close friend – were unmistakable: Are you kidding me, LeBron? That’s what lingers over the NBA Finals for James. Every great player misses in great moments, every great player fails. But this sport wants to see James’ willingness to take the chance. James had been brilliant with 36 points and six 3-pointers. He’d brought the Eastern Conference back with a ferocious fourth quarter, and, well, everyone was still waiting on him to complete the comeback and blister Bryant, and James couldn’t get that ball out of his hands fast enough. Here’s the thing, too: James knows Bryant goes to great lengths to belittle his unwillingness to rise up in the final moments of his biggest games. Bryant has five titles to James’ none, and had to bail James out in the fourth quarter of the gold-medal game of the 2008 Olympics in Beijing. Now Kobe was within inches, screaming into James’ face, “Shoot the [expletive] ball!” And, still, LeBron’s instincts weren’t to take ball and deliver it down Bryant’s throat. Score on Kobe, win the game and tell him to go to hell. Bryant would respect that. So would Michael Jordan. Magic Johnson. Larry Bird. LeBron James is different. He’s probably better than all of them, but nothing in his DNA demanded that he go after Bryant there, that he destroy him in that moment. “Yeah, he was telling me to shoot it,” James said. “I wish I could have that one back.” James will get it back again, perhaps in the NBA Finals, perhaps with Oklahoma City’s Kevin Durant bearing down on him. And when Sunday night was over, when the West had beaten the East 152-149, it was clear James hadn’t let go of his mistake, that it lingered, and no one should come out of an All-Star game feeling that way. No one should do that to themselves. Wade walked away with the clearest of minds: 24 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists and the blood of Kobe. “Kobe fouled me two times in a row,” Wade would say later, and that was his way of saying, ‘Hell yes, I fouled him hard.’ “I obviously didn’t want to draw no blood, but… “ It wasn’t that obvious, but that’s why Wade has the complete respect of his peers. Mess with him, and he’ll hurt you. Had Kobe gotten into Wade in the final moments like he did to James, Wade would’ve gone at him with a vengeance. Every star on the floor – Paul Pierce, Rajon Rondo, Deron Williams – would’ve been ruthless in pursuit of the rim, the shot, the chance to shut Bryant up. Bryant was still incredulous when James marched out of a timeout with 1.1 seconds left and was the East player designated to pass to someone else to try and make a tying 3-pointer. Think Kobe would’ve let West coach Scott Brooks use him in that role? Or Durant? No way. James had six 3-pointers, tying Mark Price’s All-Star record, and wouldn’t he want a chance at redemption there? With the East down three, coach Tom Thibodeau had James throw the pass to Wade in the corner. Wade missed the shot, the buzzer sounded, and he shrugged and laughed. He had no fear of failure there and knows he’ll shoot that again and again. As soon as Bryant left the floor on Sunday night, his fractured nose had him woozy. There was a CT scan awaiting him and an appointment with an ear, nose and throat specialist in Los Angeles on Monday. “Kobe is a scorer,” Wade said. “He got 27. He’s Kobe Bryant. He scores the ball.” That’s Wade’s way of saying: Just take a look at my 24 points, 10 rebounds, and 10 assists and LeBron’s 36-7-7. Brilliant all-around games, brilliant performances. No, this wasn’t the NBA Finals. This was the All-Star game, and no one would’ve remembered James missing that shot in the final seconds. Kobe misses them. Michael missed them. Yet, the world was waiting for LeBron to make Kobe go silent, to stop the trash talk, the belittling, and end the game. So was Kobe. He was begging LeBron, but James wanted no part of that final shot the way he wanted no part of so many big shots in the Finals loss to the Dallas Mavericks. Sooner or later, this will end for James. He’ll win his title and another and another, and he’ll finally understand he has to take that shot, that he can live with the consequences of the miss. Only thing LeBron James couldn’t do on Sunday was throw some crazy crosscourt pass while Kobe Bryant stood there in the final seconds pleading, begging – demanding – he come through him for the victory. Take the shot, live with the consequences. World’s still watching, still waiting. Edited February 27, 2012 by MexSoxFan#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 03:20 PM) I know Balta already posted the link but this is a very interesting read...yes it's a meaningless game but how could you not want to take the last shot? Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I saw that last shot and Kobe's like, "cmon man!" Even he couldn't believe that Lebron would volunteer to throw the ball in from out of bounds instead of take the last shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 01:35 AM) I agree. Non-asians, especially whites, should dictate whether something is offensive towards asians or not... How do you know that I'm white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 QUOTE (Felix @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 12:42 PM) I don't think that's Derrick Rose. You just don't like admitting that DRose has mad skillz. Yeah that's probably not him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 At first I thought it wasnt, but after a few views, it very well may be a young Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 I don't think that's Derrick Rose. You're right. His PER isn't high enough to be dancing like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 No, that's not D Rose. That's a dancer by the name of Kemo. He's from Chicago as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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