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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Mar 1, 2012 -> 02:23 PM)
I also concur with Steve's statement.

 

I'll give you "being healthy" is an important piece, but without Hamilton being at least a threat on the court the series is going to go the exact same way it did last year. Against the Heat you basically lose Boozer for the entire series, so you need someone else to step up on the offensive end.

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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 1, 2012 -> 02:32 PM)
I'll give you "being healthy" is an important piece, but without Hamilton being at least a threat on the court the series is going to go the exact same way it did last year. Against the Heat you basically lose Boozer for the entire series, so you need someone else to step up on the offensive end.

I really think that if Noah can avoid injury and maintain this level of play, the field has already been leveled. His consistency is a huge issue, though.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 1, 2012 -> 02:15 PM)
I think Joakim Noah being 100% is much more important than f***ing Rip Hamilton.

.............yes.............

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Noah being healthy is obviously better than him not being healthy. But he's still Joakim Noah. He's a valuable player with limitations. Against Miami, they're going to have to score the ball. Rose and a healthy Noah is not enough. Two of Deng, Hamilton and *gulp* Boozer are going to have to step up consistently if they're going to have any chance against Miami's defense.

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 1, 2012 -> 04:14 PM)
Noah being healthy is obviously better than him not being healthy. But he's still Joakim Noah. He's a valuable player with limitations. Against Miami, they're going to have to score the ball. Rose and a healthy Noah is not enough. Two of Deng, Hamilton and *gulp* Boozer are going to have to step up consistently if they're going to have any chance against Miami's defense.

No one is saying that only Rose and Noah would need to score to beat the Heat. I was merely pointing out that if the series started today, the Bulls would be in a better spot because Noah is street balling.

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I listened to that podcast, it's worth it. Obama sounds like me when I try to talk about the Blackhawks. It's clearly evident to anyone that watches hockey that I have no idea what i'm talking about, but the average person? Yeah I sound legit.

 

Obama, for example, completely left out any mention of Hamilton, who just happens to be the biggest key to the Bulls season.

To be fair, Obama is probably too busy presidenting to be intently following the Bulls and forming a nuanced opinion on who our biggest key is this year.

 

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 1, 2012 -> 04:16 PM)
No one is saying that only Rose and Noah would need to score to beat the Heat. I was merely pointing out that if the series started today, the Bulls would be in a better spot because Noah is street balling.

 

You blew off Hamilton's importance as if he's not a big deal. He's a very big deal. Otherwise you have the exact same team you had last year against an even better Miami team this year.

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 1, 2012 -> 05:14 PM)
Noah being healthy is obviously better than him not being healthy. But he's still Joakim Noah. He's a valuable player with limitations. Against Miami, they're going to have to score the ball. Rose and a healthy Noah is not enough. Two of Deng, Hamilton and *gulp* Boozer are going to have to step up consistently if they're going to have any chance against Miami's defense.

Boozer was also banged up like crazy in that series. But that's to be expected, honestly.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 1, 2012 -> 04:20 PM)
Boozer was also banged up like crazy in that series. But that's to be expected, honestly.

 

Boozer has a long and decorated history of folding against the elite come playoff time. Ask any Jazz fan what happened to Boozer when it was time to go up against the Laker front-court.

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LOL, I like the "this looks like a 419 scam with clipart" quote in that Mutumbo article.

 

Man, could you imagine flying in one of those countries with 10 mil, and immediately upon landing realizing that you were not leaving with any money, or anything bought with that money.

 

That must have been quite a sinking feeling

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 1, 2012 -> 04:23 PM)
Boozer has a long and decorated history of folding against the elite come playoff time. Ask any Jazz fan what happened to Boozer when it was time to go up against the Laker front-court.

 

He's not the 1/2 option on this team. With a healthy squad, he's more like the 4th option

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QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Mar 1, 2012 -> 04:39 PM)
He's not the 1/2 option on this team. With a healthy squad, he's more like the 4th option

 

Luol Deng is going to be chasing LeBron around for 40 minutes. Hamilton same with Wade (although he won't play as many minutes). Boozer is going to have to do something.

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QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 1, 2012 -> 01:20 AM)
You're a lil bit basketball-retarded. I shall now refer to you as deandrejordan4life.

 

 

 

I'll take kornel david takin' the game-winner over ANYBODY...

 

:lolhitting :notworthy

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 1, 2012 -> 05:03 PM)
Luol Deng is going to be chasing LeBron around for 40 minutes. Hamilton same with Wade (although he won't play as many minutes). Boozer is going to have to do something.

 

"Something" is different than "carrying your team" like he was expected to do in Utah

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BTW, Boozers playoff stats in 4 seasons w/ Utah:

 

06-07: 23.5 pts, 12.2 reb, 2.9 ast, .536 fg%

07-08: 16.0 pts, 12.3 reb, 2.8 ast, .415 fg%

08-09: 20.6 pts, 13.2 reb, 2.2 ast, .528 fg%

09-10: 19.7 pts, 13.2 reb, 2.9 ast, .530 fg%

 

Last year w/ CHI:

 

10-11: 12.6 pts, 9.7 reb, 1.8 ast, .433 fg% in about in 6-8 less minutes.

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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 1, 2012 -> 08:35 PM)
BTW, Boozers playoff stats in 4 seasons w/ Utah:

 

06-07: 23.5 pts, 12.2 reb, 2.9 ast, .536 fg%

07-08: 16.0 pts, 12.3 reb, 2.8 ast, .415 fg%

08-09: 20.6 pts, 13.2 reb, 2.2 ast, .528 fg%

09-10: 19.7 pts, 13.2 reb, 2.9 ast, .530 fg%

 

Last year w/ CHI:

 

10-11: 12.6 pts, 9.7 reb, 1.8 ast, .433 fg% in about in 6-8 less minutes.

 

Now show us his numbers vs the Lakers. That's the team that owned him. Make sure you include fouls and turnovers. Trust me. It's ugly.

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 1, 2012 -> 10:28 PM)
Now show us his numbers vs the Lakers. That's the team that owned him. Make sure you include fouls and turnovers. Trust me. It's ugly.

 

...and I'm sure Wade's numbers vs the Bulls in the playoffs are bad.

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 1, 2012 -> 10:28 PM)
Now show us his numbers vs the Lakers. That's the team that owned him. Make sure you include fouls and turnovers. Trust me. It's ugly.

I was actually going to post the stats from every single game he's played vs the Lakers in the playoffs knowing you'd respond with EXACTLY this but I was too lazy.

 

Hint, his numbers aren't nearly as bad as you make it seem. He's played them in 3 series and he was pretty dominant in one. The fact that the Jazz lost all three series isn't entirely on Boozer. Pretty sure he averaged a double-double in all 3.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 01:26 AM)
Or more likely a deal netting the Magic Monta Ellis doesn't happen. As much as I'm sure the Warriors are willing to part with a guard of his calibre for a center the Hornets were willing to give away a month ago and some non-lottery draft picks from the Magic...

 

Sorry, DBAHO, I know you are hoping to keep your Dwight. The Magic just have zero outside of Dwight with which to work.

Agree that it's going to be difficult, but I'm looking at this from Golden State's perspective here. As currently constructed, that team is going nowhere. Dumping Ellis's contract and bringing in an expiring deal in Kaman gives them lots of options cap - wise for the off-season (with Kwame Brown's 6.75M coming off the books also). Javale McGee is a young big they've been linked with, and trading Ellis opens up the SG spot for Klay Thompson who's actually looked pretty good when he's gotten on the floor. They could end up with Brook Lopez if Dwight bolts to the Nets in this scenario also potentially?

 

New Orleans basically wants a draft pick for Kaman from what I've read.

 

But also, the odds of Dwight not opting out have actually increased since the ASB, and that's mainly down to Deron Williams saying he's more likely than not going to Dallas now (and Dwight's camp not being very happy at all with that).

 

 

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