2011-2012 NBA Season Thread

[Felix]

@Rusty_SFChron Close This is pretty cool: @Dlee042 set up @JLin7 with his old Manhattan apartment. Maybe the couch-sleeping days are over.

 

THAT is pretty cool. Really, there are plenty of great stories surrounding Lin. But let's keep it all in perspective, people.

[SoxAce]

Depends on the system he's in really.

 

D'Antoni's offense is just so PG friendly, Lin can chuck up 25 shots a game ATM if he wants to. With the way he's shooting the basketball currently, of course he's going to have some big nights.

 

Well that and there has to be something very good about a player to make him special. Steve Nash for example doesn't need D'Antoni's system to succeed with is spectacular vision and outstanding shooting despite being un-athletic. His system isn't just good for PGs either, big men can also benefit. Luckily for David Lee, it was fitting like a glove when he went to Golden State.

[MexSoxFan#1]

Basketball on the playground is a game. Basketball in the NBA is a multi-billion dollar business. There's a difference.

Maybe you should pick up a basketball and play some pick-up ball for fun once in a while instead of pontificating like you're the second coming of Dr. Naismith here in this thread.

[Felix]

Maybe you should pick up a basketball and play some pick-up ball for fun once in a while instead of pontificating like you're the second coming of Dr. Naismith here in this thread.

That's an awfully big word. Probably had to use your brain to understand it... f**.

 

You should try just LIVING for a change. Free your mind from all that thinking. That's what the cool kids do. You do want to be cool, right?

[DBAHO]

Well that and there has to be something very good about a player to make him special. Steve Nash for example doesn't need D'Antoni's system to succeed with is spectacular vision and outstanding shooting despite being un-athletic. His system isn't just good for PGs either, big men can also benefit. Luckily for David Lee, it was fitting like a glove when he went to Golden State.

Yep, hence why Nash and Amare were so effective even under Gentry in Phoenix, although they still use a very similiar to D'Antoni, albeit with an added focus on defense (and not shooting within 7 secs).

 

I think Lin and Amare could really do some damage, and really this could help Amare's game a lot, obviously his numbers have gone down ever since Felton left. Depends if Melo's going to shoot 25 times a game and only make 8-10 of them going forward however.

[MexSoxFan#1]

That's an awfully big word. Probably had to use your brain to understand it... f**.

 

You should try just LIVING for a change. Free your mind from all that thinking. That's what the cool kids do. You do want to be cool, right?

You're not cool, you like the TWolves and the WNBA, nuff said.

Heyoooo!!

[Felix]

You're not cool, you like the TWolves and the WNBA, nuff said.

Heyoooo!!

I have no hope of ever being cool because I actually think about things. Damn brain, always getting in the way of having a good time.

[Steve9347]

Basketball on the playground is a game. Basketball in the NBA is a multi-billion dollar business. There's a difference.

Says the weirdo that drops a WNBA Championship in a thread for real sports people care about. The smell bjlls*** charity league the NBA donates lost dollar over lost dollar for for PR.

[Steve9347]

@Rusty_SFChron Close This is pretty cool: @Dlee042 set up @JLin7 with his old Manhattan apartment. Maybe the couch-sleeping days are over.

 

THAT is pretty cool. Really, there are plenty of great stories surrounding Lin. But let's keep it all in perspective, people.

Dude, you referenced a WNBA Championship.

[Steve9347]

Steve just owned Felix.

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[Steve9347]

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I have no hope of ever being cool because I actually think about things. Damn brain, always getting in the way of having a good time.

You love Ricky Rubio and his ultra inefficient field goal percentage, yet take every chance you get to rip the reigning MVP who certainly doesn't have Kevin Love on his roster for shooting 44% while beasting to an MVP award. Then you dismiss Lin. You're a god damned hypocrite.

[Felix]

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You love Ricky Rubio and his ultra inefficient field goal percentage, yet take every chance you get to rip the reigning MVP who certainly doesn't have Kevin Love on his roster for shooting 44% while beasting to an MVP award. Then you dismiss Lin. You're a god damned hypocrite.

So wait, just because I've said that Derrick Rose is inefficient and overrated by this forum (he's been better with his efficiency this season, for the record), I'm not allowed to enjoy the play of any inefficient player? Rubio is having a very good rookie year as a pass first point guard on a team surrounded with very poor jump shooters (30.6% on jumpers from 10-15 this season, 27th in the league). I'd also say that there's a difference in the importance of efficiency in players that are primarily scorers as opposed to being a pass-first, but I imagine that argument would be a waste of time.

 

What does this have ANYTHING to do with Jeremy Lin? My argument about Lin is sample size, not efficiency.

Edited February 11, 2012 by Felix

[MexSoxFan#1]

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You love Ricky Rubio and his ultra inefficient field goal percentage, yet take every chance you get to rip the reigning MVP who certainly doesn't have Kevin Love on his roster for shooting 44% while beasting to an MVP award. Then you dismiss Lin. You're a god damned hypocrite.

And tries to come off as an objective fan and then goes on to defend Love's dirty head stomp the other day.

 

 

[Felix]

And tries to come off as an objective fan and then goes on to defend Love's dirty head stomp the other day.

I said that I didn't think Love actively intended to stomp on Scola (I don't), but that he didn't actually try to avoid stepping on Scola (he didn't), so he deserved the punishment he got (he did). I'm not sure what part of that is defending Love, but you're welcome to think what you wish, I suppose.

 

You guys (mainly Steve) ought to go drink a few more beers and take a few more shots then wander into the drunk thread and call me a cocksucker. It's all the rage! Make sure you delete the post in the morning, though!

Edited February 11, 2012 by Felix

[MexSoxFan#1]

I said that I didn't think Love actively intended to stomp on Scola (I don't), but that he didn't actually try to avoid stepping on Scola (he didn't), so he deserved the punishment he got (he did). I'm not sure what part of that is defending Love, but you're welcome to think what you wish, I suppose.

 

You guys (mainly Steve) ought to go drink a few more beers and take a few more shots then wander into the drunk thread and call me a cocksucker. It's all the rage! Make sure you delete the post in the morning, though!

That post was actually funny...

 

(Large stick slowly being removed from butt)

Edited February 11, 2012 by MexSoxFan#1

[thxfrthmmrs]

So wait, just because I've said that Derrick Rose is inefficient and overrated by this forum (he's been better with his efficiency this season, for the record), I'm not allowed to enjoy the play of any inefficient player? Rubio is having a very good rookie year as a pass first point guard on a team surrounded with very poor jump shooters (30.6% on jumpers from 10-15 this season, 27th in the league). I'd also say that there's a difference in the importance of efficiency in players that are primarily scorers as opposed to being a pass-first, but I imagine that argument would be a waste of time.

 

What does this have ANYTHING to do with Jeremy Lin? My argument about Lin is sample size, not efficiency.

 

 

Dude didn't you compare Rubio to Kidd after 10 games or so? Talk about sample size huh?

 

No one rained on you for your Timberwolves parade, so why s*** over people for having a Lin parade?

 

Realistically, no one in here is expecting Lin to be a superstar point guard, but in a D'Antoni system, Lin being a top 10 pg in the league is NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION.

[Quin]

Jeremy Lin makes me think of CJ Watson.

[DBAHO]

Jeremy Lin makes me think of CJ Watson.

Watson's definitely a score first type of PG, and that's perfect coming off the bench. I will say that's he's certainly having his best season in the NBA so far however.

 

Lin has 32 assists in his past 4 games, albeit with 17 TO's also. I think he's shown he's certainly a good enough floor general (and yes I know small sample size), and if anything, you'd expect to see that improve when Amare and Melo get back into the lineup.

 

I think some people have to begun to hate on him a little because they obviously think he can't keep this up forever, and there are certainly some weaknesses in his game. But from what he's shown also, there are some major positives also (he's exactly the type of PG SVG would love for Orlando to have right now).

 

But the NBA would be loving this. He's single handledly made the Knicks relevant again, and they're starting to tap into the Asia Market big time now also.

[Brian]

I'm curious how some people would look at Lin if he was in a Golden State or Houston jersey instead of a Knicks one. We all hate how the media overrates and overhypes players based on small sample sizes but the kid is putting up 28 points a game against NBA teams and NBA players.

 

His numbers will definitely go down when Melo comes back and starts hogging the ball again, but if you can't enjoy what he is doing, I feel bad for you.

 

Haters gonna hate, I guess.

 

[Kyyle23]

I'm curious how some people would look at Lin if he was in a Golden State or Houston jersey instead of a Knicks one. We all hate how the media overrates and overhypes players based on small sample sizes but the kid is putting up 28 points a game against NBA teams and NBA players.

 

His numbers will definitely go down when Melo comes back and starts hogging the ball again, but if you can't enjoy what he is doing, I feel bad for you.

 

Haters gonna hate, I guess.

 

 

I don't hate Lin whatsoever, I just think that a tremendous amount of perspective has been lost in his small time in a Knick uniform. ESPN is now touting the Knicks as a title contender again because Lin lit up the Jazz, Wizards, Nets and Lakers. That is 3 lottery teams and a Lakers team that has completely lost its identity. Come on now, last night Magic Johnson said that he is a cross between Steve Nash and John Stockton. Are you f***ing serious? 4 games in the NBA after 2 years in the NBDL and all the sudden he is a cross between 2 of the top 50-75 players in NBA history? Hubie Brown couldn't stop gushing about his amazing court vision but didn't have much to say about his turnovers.

 

Yes, the way the kid has come out guns blazing is very impressive, but I very much agree that we are seeing a player that hasn't been looked at too much on tape by opposing coaches and there will be an adjustment coming that will probably change the way he plays the game. Remember Brandon Jennings huge run early last season that included a 55 point game? There was a lot of chatter about how good he was during that streak, and he ended up fading like Steve9347's stonewashed jeans(I know you wear them steve. Don't lie)

 

 

Plus, as previously mentioned, once Melo comes back Lin isn't gonna be putting up 20 shots anymore.

 

I prefer reading articles and opinions that can compliment the kid without the headline "Lin Dynasty OMGZ!!!!!!!". That's all

[Steve9347]

You guys (mainly Steve) ought to go drink a few more beers and take a few more shots then wander into the drunk thread and call me a cocksucker. It's all the rage! Make sure you delete the post in the morning, though!

Nothing like this happened. You lose an argument and pull the internet's version of taking your ball home.

[Steve9347]

I don't hate Lin whatsoever, I just think that a tremendous amount of perspective has been lost in his small time in a Knick uniform. ESPN is now touting the Knicks as a title contender again because Lin lit up the Jazz, Wizards, Nets and Lakers. That is 3 lottery teams and a Lakers team that has completely lost its identity. Come on now, last night Magic Johnson said that he is a cross between Steve Nash and John Stockton. Are you f***ing serious? 4 games in the NBA after 2 years in the NBDL and all the sudden he is a cross between 2 of the top 50-75 players in NBA history? Hubie Brown couldn't stop gushing about his amazing court vision but didn't have much to say about his turnovers.

 

Yes, the way the kid has come out guns blazing is very impressive, but I very much agree that we are seeing a player that hasn't been looked at too much on tape by opposing coaches and there will be an adjustment coming that will probably change the way he plays the game. Remember Brandon Jennings huge run early last season that included a 55 point game? There was a lot of chatter about how good he was during that streak, and he ended up fading like Steve9347's stonewashed jeans(I know you wear them steve. Don't lie)

 

 

Plus, as previously mentioned, once Melo comes back Lin isn't gonna be putting up 20 shots anymore.

 

I prefer reading articles and opinions that can compliment the kid without the headline "Lin Dynasty OMGZ!!!!!!!". That's all

Your first mistake is listening to ESPN "analysis". Your second mistake is bringing up Brandon Jennings when comparing the hype to a guard who has good shot selection.

 

Your third mistake, and the final mistake you will ever make in your life as I am prepping my gun, was the stonewashed jeans comment.

[Steve9347]

Oh wait, I don't own a gun.

[Felix]

Dude didn't you compare Rubio to Kidd after 10 games or so? Talk about sample size huh?

You obviously didn't read those posts too closely, so there's no real point in explaining what I actually said.

 

I don't hate Lin whatsoever, I just think that a tremendous amount of perspective has been lost in his small time in a Knick uniform. ESPN is now touting the Knicks as a title contender again because Lin lit up the Jazz, Wizards, Nets and Lakers. That is 3 lottery teams and a Lakers team that has completely lost its identity. Come on now, last night Magic Johnson said that he is a cross between Steve Nash and John Stockton. Are you f***ing serious? 4 games in the NBA after 2 years in the NBDL and all the sudden he is a cross between 2 of the top 50-75 players in NBA history? Hubie Brown couldn't stop gushing about his amazing court vision but didn't have much to say about his turnovers.

 

Yes, the way the kid has come out guns blazing is very impressive, but I very much agree that we are seeing a player that hasn't been looked at too much on tape by opposing coaches and there will be an adjustment coming that will probably change the way he plays the game. Remember Brandon Jennings huge run early last season that included a 55 point game? There was a lot of chatter about how good he was during that streak, and he ended up fading like Steve9347's stonewashed jeans(I know you wear them steve. Don't lie)

^ Gets it

 

It's nothing against what Lin has done. He's obviously had a great, great start to his career and he has a fantastic story that SHOULD be told. But people are going wayyy overboard after four games.

Edited February 11, 2012 by Felix

[Kyyle23]

Your first mistake is listening to ESPN "analysis". Your second mistake is bringing up Brandon Jennings when comparing the hype to a guard who has good shot selection.

 

Your third mistake, and the final mistake you will ever make in your life as I am prepping my gun, was the stonewashed jeans comment.

 

I don't listen to espn analysis like it is gospel, but you can't avoid it as you watch a game. And let's be honest, ESPN is not the only outlet saying this s***.

 

And I said nothing about shot selection, only the hype regarding a guy who put up big numbers in a small period of time. Jennings and Lin have about as much in common as Iverson and Lin, which isn't much.

 

Your rubberband gun doesn't scare me.