Kyyle23 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Looks like the Linsanity Van has driven off Reality cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Figures...Boozer plays strong and no one talks about it. Really enjoyable game to watch last night. Boozer and Korver both stepped it up and Butler looked solid in his 25 minutes of play. Butler really looks like he could be a good defender and a solid player. Given the position the Bulls are in, I hope we see him get more minutes for the next couple of weeks. It will really help his development and you never know when you need him to step up. Plus it only helps him for the long-term as I know Thibs really likes him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 02:02 PM) Figures...Boozer plays strong and no one talks about it. Really enjoyable game to watch last night. Boozer and Korver both stepped it up and Butler looked solid in his 25 minutes of play. Butler really looks like he could be a good defender and a solid player. Given the position the Bulls are in, I hope we see him get more minutes for the next couple of weeks. It will really help his development and you never know when you need him to step up. Plus it only helps him for the long-term as I know Thibs really likes him. Boozer did give up as many points as he scored, but I don't hate boozer like a lot of people do. Nice to see him, Korver, and butler step up though with the injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 02:02 PM) Figures...Boozer plays strong and no one talks about it. Really enjoyable game to watch last night. Boozer and Korver both stepped it up and Butler looked solid in his 25 minutes of play. Butler really looks like he could be a good defender and a solid player. Given the position the Bulls are in, I hope we see him get more minutes for the next couple of weeks. It will really help his development and you never know when you need him to step up. Plus it only helps him for the long-term as I know Thibs really likes him. I think Butler will be part of Bench Mob 2.0 with Mirotic. I want the Bulls to get the next Mobs PG, SG/SF, and C in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 @waddleandsilvy Good article by @KBergCBS. Orlando would like to send Howard to #Bulls, but nothing likely since Howard wont sign long term here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Here's an interesting take on Dwight: http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/201..._medium=twitter It makes perfect sense. "I just want to win" but I don't want to win badly enough to join the team with the best record in the NBA with another young superstar and the league MVP? Here's the original Berger article: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ken-berg...-him-to-chicago God, it's so annoying. Even if they had to deal Deng and Noah, Dwight and Rose is an insane combo and you have enough depth to fill out a great starting five any way you slice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 11:15 PM) God, it's so annoying. Even if they had to deal Deng and Noah, Dwight and Rose is an insane combo and you have enough depth to fill out a great starting five any way you slice it. Again I'll note...Deng and Noah for Howard and Hedo really isn't the greatest deal for Dwight either...even if the pick and Mirotic are included, that deal puts a whole lot of long term money onto the Magic's roster. It keeps them basically stuck in Luxury tax territory for the near future. I don't know that I'd accept that deal if I were them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 10:15 PM) Here's an interesting take on Dwight: http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/201..._medium=twitter It makes perfect sense. "I just want to win" but I don't want to win badly enough to join the team with the best record in the NBA with another young superstar and the league MVP? Here's the original Berger article: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ken-berg...-him-to-chicago God, it's so annoying. Even if they had to deal Deng and Noah, Dwight and Rose is an insane combo and you have enough depth to fill out a great starting five any way you slice it. I'd get worked up about it but this has been known for months. The way the Magic are playing right now, they'd be insane to give up Howard for anything less than a king's ransom. Move along. Dwight to the Bulls can't happen. Bill Simmons said it best in his trade value column... This is a weird comment that can't be backed up but I'm making it anyway: I don't think any NBA fan base loves a player more than Bulls fans love Derrick Rose. If you went into a Chicago sports bar and started trashing Rose during a Bulls game, you'd get beaten up and left for dead in an alley. It can be confirmed by me. Chicago hearts our D-Rose. Felix calls us on it all the time. Dwight doesn't want to compete with that. Edited March 12, 2012 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 @johnhollinger: Playoff Odds update: Milwaukee has now passed NY as most likely East No. 8 http://es.pn/5MzVrj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Noah is playing tonight; Deng and Watson are out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 The Magic would be willing to trade Dwight Howard to Chicago in exchange for Omer Asik, Luol Deng, Carlos Boozer and a valuable first-round pick from Charlotte, according to a report. Chicago will not move forward with the trade scenario without assurances that Howard will sign a long-term deal with the Bulls, which he’s given no indication he’ll do. Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21963...s#ixzz1ovQKxKzM Wow. Asik + Deng + Boozer + Charlotte pick and Dwight doesn't want to be here. THAT deal I do. Noah + Deng is a little different, but that one, just, wow. I love Deng as much as the next guy, but Noah-Dwight-Gibson is an insane defensive front court. You could start Korver and Brewer/Butler. But the manchild doesn't want to be here, so f*** him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Two teams sources say tell SI Howard will have interest in: Clippers and Miami. There are cap issues, but the interest is real. https://twitter.com/#!/chrismannixsi The Heat? REALLY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 01:39 PM) Wow. Asik + Deng + Boozer + Charlotte pick and Dwight doesn't want to be here. THAT deal I do. Noah + Deng is a little different, but that one, just, wow. I love Deng as much as the next guy, but Noah-Dwight-Gibson is an insane defensive front court. You could start Korver and Brewer/Butler. But the manchild doesn't want to be here, so f*** him. And the Bulls clear Boozer's contract? Of course I'd do that if he'd extend. But first, I don't believe that the Magic would seriously take Boozer's deal, and second it's pretty clear DH doesn't want to extend here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (smalls2598 @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 12:46 PM) Noah is playing tonight; Deng and Watson are out. We need Deng back Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 12:44 PM) And the Bulls clear Boozer's contract? Of course I'd do that if he'd extend. But first, I don't believe that the Magic would seriously take Boozer's deal, and second it's pretty clear DH doesn't want to extend here. Still, if that report is true? Dwight is being a baby. Rose - Watson Rip - Brewer Korver - Butler Noah - Gibson Dwight - Scalabrine for all I care. It just doesn't make sense why Dwight really doesn't want to extend here, other than he wants to team with his buddies. But I don't want to here "I want to win" from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 01:48 PM) It just doesn't make sense why Dwight really doesn't want to extend here, other than he wants to team with his buddies. But I don't want to here "I want to win" from him. Or "The shoe company paying me $200 million over the next 10 years doesn't want me playing on the same team as the guy they're paying $300 million over the next 10 years". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 12:50 PM) Or "The shoe company paying me $200 million over the next 10 years doesn't want me playing on the same team as the guy they're paying $300 million over the next 10 years". I thought Rose's deal was also $200 million? Let's face it folks, Simmons hit the nail on the head a while ago - stars these days want to be stars more than champions/legends of the sport. They're more concerned about their brand than the number of titles they have. Sad, but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 D12's first priority isn't about winning, that much is clear, if it's true that Adidas is against it, he could just tell them to f*** off...I don't think D12 will have trouble getting another lucrative shoe deal. Nike has no problem with Wade and LBJ in the same market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 12:00 PM) I thought Rose's deal was also $200 million? Let's face it folks, Simmons hit the nail on the head a while ago - stars these days want to be stars more than champions/legends of the sport. They're more concerned about their brand than the number of titles they have. Sad, but true. I read recently an article by Simmons where he says that Rose and Durant care about winning more than anything else, he really likes both those players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 12:50 PM) Or "The shoe company paying me $200 million over the next 10 years doesn't want me playing on the same team as the guy they're paying $300 million over the next 10 years". Because I'm sure Nike wouldn't jump at the chance to snag Howard. QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 01:00 PM) I thought Rose's deal was also $200 million? Let's face it folks, Simmons hit the nail on the head a while ago - stars these days want to be stars more than champions/legends of the sport. They're more concerned about their brand than the number of titles they have. Sad, but true. That and about having fun and the easy route. QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 01:03 PM) D12's first priority isn't about winning, that much is clear, if it's true that Adidas is against it, he could just tell them to f*** off...I don't think D12 will have trouble getting another lucrative shoe deal. Nike has no problem with Wade and LBJ in the same market. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 12:39 PM) Wow. Asik + Deng + Boozer + Charlotte pick and Dwight doesn't want to be here. THAT deal I do. Noah + Deng is a little different, but that one, just, wow. I love Deng as much as the next guy, but Noah-Dwight-Gibson is an insane defensive front court. You could start Korver and Brewer/Butler. But the manchild doesn't want to be here, so f*** him. That "report" is just citing the article recently posted. The players are just a suggestion, and there's absolutely no report saying the Magic would do that deal as proposed above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Guys, why are you getting worked up? This deal, and the reposting of Dwight to Chicago ideas are just being published to the web to generate clicks. There is nothing new here that we didn't know months ago. Dwight doesn't want to come to Chicago, the Bulls won't make a deal unless he extends. It's not rocket science and there's no reason to get worked up here. Orlando will hold Dwight unless a team that's not on his list comes calling. They'll either get Dwight to stay for the extra $29 million - which is a good bet since it's, you know, $29 million - or they'll have lots of cap space, go into rebuild with a bunch of chuckers, and wait for the next chance. Getting guys like the oft-injured Brook Lopez won't entice Orlando, that's just inviting yourself to be in NBA hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 12:50 PM) Or "The shoe company paying me $200 million over the next 10 years doesn't want me playing on the same team as the guy they're paying $300 million over the next 10 years". Stop with the Adidas thing already. They've come out and said they wouldn't mind them in the same market. Dwight even said it himself. Adidas is NOT stopping any deal that brings Dwight to Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Pretty well-respected poster at RealGM spraying to all fields re: Bulls. The scout that told me about Orlando's offer to the Bulls last weekend just informed me that Chicago and Boston are discussing a huge trade where Pierce and Garnett will go to the Bulls.There have been variations of this trade with Golden State also entering the deal for a three team trade(likely Deng for Monta Ellis swap by Boston) but mostly there is interest from our team to get championship caliber players. Boozer,Deng,Asik are the main pieces being dangled in the talks. The Dwight Howard offer is still on the table but the Bulls are apparently searching for other avenues.The Pau Gasol interest is real. Like I said, spraying to all fields. At least the Bulls don't seem content. I'd imagine these injuries might force their hands into something. To add more fuel to this fire, Jim Paxson (not a typo, he's a Bulls' consultant) was at the Lakers/Celtics game yesterday. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6rh7zrc Rose, Watson Hamilton, Brewer Pierce, Brewer Garnett, Gibson Noah, Gibson Scalabrine Butler Lucas That's a really interesting 8 man rotation. Paul Pierce's 13/14 is not guaranteed. Obviously, that monster KG deal coming off the books is rather attractive. Edited March 12, 2012 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Unless the Celtics are getting some draft picks I can only imagine their interest is because they want Thib to win? And I believe a long time ago I said I wanted KG (back when the rumor was Ray Allen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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