Jenksismyhero Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Going by the PER metric, Bulls are giving up quite a bit there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 03:41 PM) Going by the PER metric, Bulls are giving up quite a bit there. Boozer's not really a 20 PER player. And Watson sure as hell isn't a 17 PER player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 03:43 PM) Boozer's not really a 20 PER player. And Watson sure as hell isn't a 17 PER player. Blasphemy! My numbers are concrete!! -Hollinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 PER says Ricky Rubio is the 33rd best... point guard in the NBA. PER is mostly bunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 03:50 PM) PER says Ricky Rubio is the 33rd best... point guard in the NBA. PER is mostly bunk. He probably is the 33rd best point guard at shooting the ball though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 03:51 PM) He probably is the 33rd best point guard at shooting the ball though. He's probably dead last among points in that regard, but PER is supposed to incorporate everything else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Pau stuff might be dead before it started. KC Johnson reporting that the Lakers don't have any interest in Boozer and the Bulls are having a hard time finding a 3rd team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/...ers-sources-say Sources: Bulls vying for Pau Gasol Updated: March 13, 2012, 4:40 PM ET By Marc Stein | ESPN.com The Chicago Bulls are exploring avenues to acquire Los Angeles Lakers forward Pau Gasol before Thursday's trade deadline, according to sources close to the situation. The Bulls have long hoped to wedge themselves into the trade running for Orlando Magic star Dwight Howard, but sources told ESPN.com that Howard's well-chronicled lack of interest in a trade to Chicago has prompted the Bulls to switch their focus to Gasol in advance of Thursday's 3 p.m. deadline. Sources say that the Lakers, however, have limited interest in the players Chicago would be offering, starting with Bulls forward Carlos Boozer. So the Bulls would have to recruit at least one more team to the discussions to have any shot at Gasol, sources said, with the Lakers known to be insistent on getting back at least one certifiable star if they consent to the trade the Spaniard. Sources say that the Lakers, furthermore, continue to talk to other teams about Gasol in advance. The Lakers' longstanding preference, of course, is acquiring a top point guard if they agree to surrender Gasol. L.A. included the 7-footer in the December deal with New Orleans and Houston that would have landed Chris Paul with the Lakers, only for NBA commissioner David Stern -- acting as the final decision-maker for the league-owned Hornets -- to tell New Orleans' basketball people to cancel the deal after all three teams agreed to terms. Gasol has been subjected to constant trade speculation ever since and recently acknowledged to ESPN.com that "there's no guarantees" he'll be with the Lakers beyond the trading deadline despite recent assurances from Lakers management that no deal was imminent. The Rockets continue to have interest in Gasol but have consistently refused to make point guard Kyle Lowry available in talks with the Lakers. Golden State and Minnesota are also known to have interest in trading Gasol if the Lakers prove willing. Before the All-Star Game, Lakers guard Kobe Bryant registered a public plea to team officials for clarification on Gasol's tenuous future, saying that "it's hard for [Gasol] to kind of invest himself completely ... when he's hearing trade talk every other day." Gasol has since acknowledged that he's well aware he'll be subjected to speculation, even if he survives in L.A. through this deadline, after his near-trade to Houston before the season started. Asked how much he's looking forward to getting past Thursday, Gasol recently told ESPN.com: "When that day comes along and nothing happens, I know for sure I'll have the security that I will be here at least for this season. After that? Who knows? Obviously it'll be an important day in order just to put everything behind me for another month or two or three." ESPN.com reported last month that the Bulls are shocked and frustrated that Howard has not included them on his publicly known list of teams to which he'd welcome a trade, which is headlined by the New Jersey Nets and Dallas Mavericks and originally included the Lakers as well. The Bulls naturally relish the idea of pairing Howard with star guard Derrick Rose, but it's believed that Howard's primary reservation about a trade to Chicago is that the Bulls are clearly Chicago native Rose's team. Going to the Brooklyn-bound Nets, by contrast, would not only put Howard in a major market but also give him a larger share of the spotlight alongside Nets guard Deron Williams. Howard's interest the Lakers has waned for similar reasons, with sources close to the 26-year-old saying that he has grown increasingly sensitive to suggestions that he is following Shaquille O'Neal's career path too closely and has thus prefers to wind up with either New Jersey or Dallas. The Bulls' primary need remains backcourt scoring thanks to a succession of injuries suffered by newcomer Rip Hamilton, but team officials have quietly maintained an interest in acquiring an elite big man such as Howard or Gasol to try to ease the nightly load Rose carries. Rose became the youngest MVP in NBA history last season but couldn't overcome the suffocating attention he received from the Miami Heat in last spring's Eastern Conference finals, raising concerns that Chicago -- despite its league-leading 35-9 record -- will face the same issues this postseason. Marc Stein covers the NBA for ESPN.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 04:02 PM) http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/...ers-sources-say KC Johnson tweeted Lakers don't want Boozer. If such a trade were to happen, it'd have to be a 3-way deal. Maybe we can entice the Rockets with the Boozer + Asik + Watson package for Lowry and Scola. Unlikely, but hey, worth a try right? Edited March 13, 2012 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 So, who has a PG they are willing to part with and need a PF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Trade Gibson, Asik, Butler, Watson and Charlotte's #1 for Monta Ellis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 04:11 PM) So, who has a PG they are willing to part with and need a PF? Denver has a boatload of guards and looks like they need an actual PF so Nene can move back to the 5 full-time. But I don't think Andre Miller will change the Lakers' minds. Maybe the Bulls can try for Brandon Jennings...? Milwaukee wants to deal. Edited March 13, 2012 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 04:11 PM) Trade Gibson, Asik, Butler, Watson and Charlotte's #1 for Monta Ellis. Warriors want more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Supposedly there's some options being tossed around from the Bulls to the Magic. Noah, Boozer, Watson for Howard, Turkoglou if Dwight will simply opt-in for next year (ala Deron, ala CP3) Notice, no Deng. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 04:32 PM) Supposedly there's some options being tossed around from the Bulls to the Magic. Noah, Boozer, Watson for Howard, Turkoglou if Dwight will simply opt-in for next year (ala Deron, ala CP3) Notice, no Deng. Hey Steve, where are you finding this info? If its on Twitter, I'd like to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (smalls2598 @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 04:36 PM) Hey Steve, where are you finding this info? If its on Twitter, I'd like to follow. realGM bulls board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Rose got fined $25,000 for his comments from yesterday's game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 02:32 PM) Supposedly there's some options being tossed around from the Bulls to the Magic. Noah, Boozer, Watson for Howard, Turkoglou if Dwight will simply opt-in for next year (ala Deron, ala CP3) Notice, no Deng. I'd totally do it. I really like Taj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 The Nets are emerging as the most likely trade partner for Dwight Howard, sources tell CBS' Ken Berger. According to Berger, the Magic are finally "coming to grips" with the reality that they have to trade Howard before Thursday's 3 p.m. deadline. It's becoming increasingly clear that Howard has no intention of re-signing with the Magic this summer when he can opt out of his contract. A possible deal with the Nets would center around Brook Lopez and MarShon Brooks for Howard and Hedo Turkoglu. And we're back to square one... nothing like acquiring an injured center who averages per game as many boards as Dwight does per quarter. MarShon is damn nice, but s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Dammit, why did I let myself get wrapped up in this. The Bulls never pull off the big trade, be it because of no interest from the other players or lack of execution by management. Best record in East. Let's go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-w...ts_trade_031312 Howard Determined To End Up With Nets Mar 13, 2012 2:34 PM EDT Dwight Howard's request for a strong supporting cast and the possibility of signing an extension with the Magic is a ruse as he plans on eventually signing with the Nets, according to sources. “Dwight’s gone, and [Magic CEO] Alex Martins is the only person who doesn’t believe that,” a league source with knowledge of Howard’s intentions told Yahoo! Sports. Howard has created the illusion that he may remain with the Magic because he reportedly dislikes confrontation and believes a trade is no longer in his best long-term interests. Howard is privately telling people the acquisition of better complementary players could convince him to stay, leagues sources told Marc J. Spears. But Howard's camp, according to sources, is clear that Howard will sign with the Nets at the start of free agency. Otis Smith and Stan Van Gundy know Howard is set to leave the Magic and would like a trade. “Otis and Stan want the circus to end,” one source close to them said. “They want a deal.” Martins has improved the franchise’s relationship with Howard, multiple sources told Yahoo! Sports. But as one source talking to Martins and Howard said: “That’s great, but [Dwight’s] still going to leave.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 f*** Dwight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 +10000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) Per Mike James' Twitter: "I guess 3rd times a charm. That's what they say!!" https://twitter.com/#!/mikejames7 this is from RealGM.....interesting timing for a new 10 day contract if it is a deal w/ the bulls Edited March 14, 2012 by TheCut87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Bucks and Warriors have agreed in principle on trade to send Bogut and Jackson to Warriors for Ellis, Udoh and Brown, league source tells Y!— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) March 14, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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