southsider2k5 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 10:54 AM) Grant Hill's decision to stay in PHX had to have been knowing that they would continue to be bad and the Bulls would be good again.......there was no reason to think anything else. He's like Kerry Wood, rather be in a low pressure situation than a chance at winning a championship. He also got more money in Phoenix than the Bulls could have paid him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGone33 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:07 AM) There's also a medical staff thing going on in Phoenix that no other team in the NBA seems able to match. No doubt about their abilities but I'm not buying it as the reason he stayed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 10:54 AM) Grant Hill's decision to stay in PHX had to have been knowing that they would continue to be bad and the Bulls would be good again.......there was no reason to think anything else. He's like Kerry Wood, rather be in a low pressure situation than a chance at winning a championship. I'd reckon it had a lot more to do with the $$ and the fact that their medical staff actually keeps him on the court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGone33 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:08 AM) He also got more money in Phoenix than the Bulls could have paid him. Another reason he doesn't regret his decision Money > Winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:10 AM) No doubt about their abilities but I'm not buying it as the reason he stayed The Bulls medical staff sure doesn't seem to have those results, regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Is it really the medical staff though? Hills ankle injury was horrific, I think it honestly took him that long to truly recover from it to actually stay on the court. I would tend to lean towards the money aspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 12:16 PM) Is it really the medical staff though? Hills ankle injury was horrific, I think it honestly took him that long to truly recover from it to actually stay on the court. I would tend to lean towards the money aspect He's not the only guy who has said that the Phoenix staff works miracles. Nash is a big one also (that might well be why he keeps staying there also). And I believe they've had other injury recoveries in the past decade, someone remind me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:22 AM) And I believe they've had other injury recoveries in the past decade, someone remind me? Amar'e is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 12:24 PM) Amar'e is one. Shaq played a full season there didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:12 AM) Another reason he doesn't regret his decision Money > Winning 99% of pro athletes agree with Hill, not gonna hate on him for that, besides, I'd rather have White Mamba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:25 AM) Shaq played a full season there didn't he? 75 games in 08-09, which was the most games he played since 04-05. He also praised the medical staff over there. Edited January 19, 2012 by SoxAce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) On a serious note, Hill could've helped a ton, he would be the creater on the Bench Mob and we would see less of KK Watson Brewer Hill Taj Asik that's a filthy 2nd unit, and Rose would get some help on ball handling duties=more rest. And Deng too Edited January 19, 2012 by MexSoxFan#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Danny Ainge came out and said he'd be open to trading the Big 3 given the team's slow start. I'd imagine Thibs would be pushing for the acquisition of either of his boys. Kevin Garnett - 1 year @ $21.2 F*CK NO Paul Pierce - 3 years @ $15.3 F*CK NO Ray Allen - 1 year @ $10 YES PLEASE So, what does it cost to bring in Ray Allen? He's still a perfect fit which would allow Rip to be a super sub off the bench at SF/SG/PG? Honestly, the only deal for the Bulls that doesn't hurt us in the frontcourt would be Korver + Brewer, which is basically a net nothing for the Celtics, but they don't add any salary beyond this year. The Bulls could definitely make it worthwhile for the Celtics with the Bobcats' pick they own that gets more valuable each year, and a few of their own. If you have to toss in Butler, do it. Oh Lord, it'd be too perfect. Edited January 19, 2012 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I really don't think I'd give up that Bobcats pick for Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:44 AM) I really don't think I'd give up that Bobcats pick for Allen. I think you're on drugs. Then again, I like the idea of the Bulls winning a Championship this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:44 AM) I really don't think I'd give up that Bobcats pick for Allen. I agree, that's gotta fetch more than Allen at this point of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 12:46 PM) I think you're on drugs. Then again, I like the idea of the Bulls winning a Championship this year. I mean, if it's Korver + Brewer + that pick to balance the salaries...the Bulls lose some shooting and some defense as well. Can you convince me that Ray Allen would be a huge upgrade and not just a small one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Id be fine with KG and Allen. But no way can the Bulls make those salaries work, unless they send something like Boozer, Korver +. Id actually consider Boozer for KG because getting out from that Boozer contract is valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:50 AM) I mean, if it's Korver + Brewer + that pick to balance the salaries...the Bulls lose some shooting and some defense as well. Can you convince me that Ray Allen would be a huge upgrade and not just a small one? Huge is an understatement. Allen is a conditioned freak and completely lights out from 3 and efficient as all hell. He hasn't lost anything the last few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:52 AM) Id actually consider Boozer for KG because getting out from that Boozer contract is valuable. There's no way the Celtics would do that. Forget KG. Ray Allen is all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) All things being considered if I could add 1 Celrtic, it would be KG. ( I didnt mean the Celtics would do Boozer for KG straight up, just that in a deal for KG youd have to add some salary like Boozer) Allen would be great to spread the floor etc, but having KG would really help the Bulls against the Heat. Heat have a strong back court, Allen/Rose on the floor would mean that 1 of them is likely going to have to guard Wade. I doubt the Bulls get any of them, but if I could pick itd be KG (and he may consider resigning for a decent deal) Edited January 19, 2012 by Soxbadger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA Russell Westbrook has signed a five-year, $78 million-plus max extension with Oklahoma City, league sources tell Y! Sports. Story soon on Y! Thunder are locked and loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 So we get to hear about Westbrook and Durant feuding for 5 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:40 AM) Danny Ainge came out and said he'd be open to trading the Big 3 given the team's slow start. I'd imagine Thibs would be pushing for the acquisition of either of his boys. Kevin Garnett - 1 year @ $21.2 F*CK NO Paul Pierce - 3 years @ $15.3 F*CK NO Ray Allen - 1 year @ $10 YES PLEASE So, what does it cost to bring in Ray Allen? He's still a perfect fit which would allow Rip to be a super sub off the bench at SF/SG/PG? Honestly, the only deal for the Bulls that doesn't hurt us in the frontcourt would be Korver + Brewer, which is basically a net nothing for the Celtics, but they don't add any salary beyond this year. The Bulls could definitely make it worthwhile for the Celtics with the Bobcats' pick they own that gets more valuable each year, and a few of their own. If you have to toss in Butler, do it. Oh Lord, it'd be too perfect. Picking up another shooter would be awesome. It would also free up money in the coming years for the Bulls, which I would bet would stop the Cs from doing that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 01:08 PM) Picking up another shooter would be awesome. It would also free up money in the coming years for the Bulls, which I would bet would stop the Cs from doing that deal. Don't Brewer and Korver expire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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