2012 TV Thread

[Jenksismyhero]

The episode was ok, and it's certainly getting better (hard not to really). My wife and I were screaming at the TV last night because of all the inconsistencies/stupid as s*** decisions people made:

 

(1) apparently you can now run amongst walkers and be totally fine;

(1a) apparently blood, which was a huge luring agent one day ago, no longer lures zombies;

 

(2) zombies have no sense of flanking maneuvers, otherwise everyone would be dead;

 

(3) Herschel has a 22 shot shotgun (no reload required);

 

(4) zombie survival tip: when driving an RV to pick up people from the roof of a barn in a sea of zombies, once said people are on the roof, immediately turn the engine off and head toward the side door. Note: do not be concerned with sea of zombies coming to eat you;

 

(5) helicopters attract zombies. gun shots attract zombies only when deemed necessary by the writers;

 

(6) Carl...ugh. Carl. My favorite was when he WITNESSED his dad kill Shane, and then put a bullet in zombie Shane's head, and then CRIED when his dad "broke" the news to the group. WTF Carl? YOU WATCHED HIM DO IT WHY ARE YOU CRYING LIKE HE'S SOME MONSTER?!

 

(7) Last night was reason 1,456 why preparing your home in case of zombie attack >>>>>>>>>>>> talking about your feelings over and over again.

 

(8) Props to my wife for calling the "we're all infected and Rick knew it from his talk with the CDC guy" 2 episodes ago. (also, why was that such a big deal that Rick didn't tell people? I mean yeah, I would have been mildly annoyed, but it's not like it would change anything.)

 

That's all I can remember off the top of my head. Certainly some cool kills in there, and i'm excited about whatever that thing is that helped Andrea. But Christ is this show awful.

[BigSqwert]

(4) zombie survival tip: when driving an RV to pick up people from the roof of a barn in a sea of zombies, once said people are on the roof, immediately turn the engine off and head toward the side door. Note: do not be concerned with sea of zombies coming to eat you;

[Kyyle23]

Jenks you are like that guy who listened to Mancow every day in order to report the bad things he did to the FCC and tell everyone how awful he is

[GoSox05]

The episode was ok, and it's certainly getting better (hard not to really). My wife and I were screaming at the TV last night because of all the inconsistencies/stupid as s*** decisions people made:

 

(1) apparently you can now run amongst walkers and be totally fine;

(1a) apparently blood, which was a huge luring agent one day ago, no longer lures zombies;

 

(2) zombies have no sense of flanking maneuvers, otherwise everyone would be dead;

 

(3) Herschel has a 22 shot shotgun (no reload required);

 

(4) zombie survival tip: when driving an RV to pick up people from the roof of a barn in a sea of zombies, once said people are on the roof, immediately turn the engine off and head toward the side door. Note: do not be concerned with sea of zombies coming to eat you;

 

(5) helicopters attract zombies. gun shots attract zombies only when deemed necessary by the writers;

 

(6) Carl...ugh. Carl. My favorite was when he WITNESSED his dad kill Shane, and then put a bullet in zombie Shane's head, and then CRIED when his dad "broke" the news to the group. WTF Carl? YOU WATCHED HIM DO IT WHY ARE YOU CRYING LIKE HE'S SOME MONSTER?!

 

(7) Last night was reason 1,456 why preparing your home in case of zombie attack >>>>>>>>>>>> talking about your feelings over and over again.

 

(8) Props to my wife for calling the "we're all infected and Rick knew it from his talk with the CDC guy" 2 episodes ago. (also, why was that such a big deal that Rick didn't tell people? I mean yeah, I would have been mildly annoyed, but it's not like it would change anything.)

 

That's all I can remember off the top of my head. Certainly some cool kills in there, and i'm excited about whatever that thing is that helped Andrea. But Christ is this show awful.

 

 

You could use those same complaints about every zombie movie ever made.

 

 

[southsider2k5]

I love when Science Fiction is too fictiony.

[Jenksismyhero]

I love when Science Fiction is too fictiony.

 

I'm just asking for a LITTLE consistency, that's all. When you set up a rule (e.g., Rick slicing his hand open to draw a zombie to him) you can't immediately forget said rule just for the sake of the plot. Walking among the zombies being the other big one - that was the whole point of the first few episodes - don't get caught in a sea of zombies or you're dead for sure! Except when you have a 12 year old and there are 100 times more zombies, then it's perfectly fine to walk briskly among them and they won't attack you (even when you're covered in anti-luring blood)

Edited March 19, 2012 by Jenksismybitch

[Jenksismyhero]

Jenks you are like that guy who listened to Mancow every day in order to report the bad things he did to the FCC and tell everyone how awful he is

 

For me (and I don't think i'm alone) the premise of the show was what drew me to it. And there are little bits and pieces of the show that are really good. So I keep watching sort of half knowing/half hoping that it's going to get better. New characters, no more farm, the survivors actually doing something instead of just talking amongst themselves - all reasonable expectations that I think are going to end up making season 3 the best yet.

 

Unfortunately we have to get there first. And it's been a real struggle. The new head writer was obviously limited in what he could do, but you can tell he understood that fans were getting restless. So it's getting there, it's just fun to talk about how terrible the writing is/can be.

[StrangeSox]

I love when Science Fiction is too fictiony.

 

Suspending belief within the rules of the fictional universe is one thing, but story and universe inconsistency are another.

[GoSox05]

The only rule in The Walking Dead is don't get eaten by a zombie.

 

 

I don't know where all these other "rules" came from.

[StrangeSox]

The only rule in The Walking Dead is don't get eaten by a zombie.

 

 

I don't know where all these other "rules" came from.

 

Previous plot points?

[GoSox05]

Previous plot points?

 

Give me an example?

[Milkman delivers]

The episode was ok, and it's certainly getting better (hard not to really). My wife and I were screaming at the TV last night because of all the inconsistencies/stupid as s*** decisions people made:

 

(1) apparently you can now run amongst walkers and be totally fine;

(1a) apparently blood, which was a huge luring agent one day ago, no longer lures zombies;

 

(2) zombies have no sense of flanking maneuvers, otherwise everyone would be dead;

 

(3) Herschel has a 22 shot shotgun (no reload required);

 

(4) zombie survival tip: when driving an RV to pick up people from the roof of a barn in a sea of zombies, once said people are on the roof, immediately turn the engine off and head toward the side door. Note: do not be concerned with sea of zombies coming to eat you;

 

(5) helicopters attract zombies. gun shots attract zombies only when deemed necessary by the writers;

 

(6) Carl...ugh. Carl. My favorite was when he WITNESSED his dad kill Shane, and then put a bullet in zombie Shane's head, and then CRIED when his dad "broke" the news to the group. WTF Carl? YOU WATCHED HIM DO IT WHY ARE YOU CRYING LIKE HE'S SOME MONSTER?!

 

(7) Last night was reason 1,456 why preparing your home in case of zombie attack >>>>>>>>>>>> talking about your feelings over and over again.

 

(8) Props to my wife for calling the "we're all infected and Rick knew it from his talk with the CDC guy" 2 episodes ago. (also, why was that such a big deal that Rick didn't tell people? I mean yeah, I would have been mildly annoyed, but it's not like it would change anything.)

 

That's all I can remember off the top of my head. Certainly some cool kills in there, and i'm excited about whatever that thing is that helped Andrea. But Christ is this show awful.

 

I think it makes sense that the zombies have no sense of flanking maneuvers. They're mindless. What do you mean about the blood NOT attracting them this episode?

[StrangeSox]

1 and 1a in Jenks' list

[Jenksismyhero]

So GoSox if a pink unicorn comes from the sky to save one of these characters from an impending zombie death you'd be ok with it because there are no rules? I mean come on. They've established the "rules" of the zombie world they live in and they just don't stick to them. And that's at best lousy writing and at worst just plain lazy writing.

 

Steve mentioned the awfulness of Lori. I forgot to add that to my list. I loved the fact that she was screaming about Carl being gone. So incredibly unreasonable and unbelievable for her not to be glued to him given his prior knack for wandering around the farm unattended (not to mention the fact that they boarded up the house and/or were guarding the doors...so how escaped is even a bigger mystery).

 

But most egregiously, we're 2 episodes removed from her being all "Rick you have to get rid of Shane because he's crazy," and she's now not talking to Rick EVEN THOUGH RICK CLEARLY EXPLAINED THAT SHANE WAS GOING TO KILL HIM IF HE DIDN'T KILL SHANE FIRST. WTF?! It's like two sets of writers are working on this show and they don't talk to each other or watch the episodes. How does this position jive at all? I mean, I sorta get it if she thinks he's gone bat s*** crazy, but he hasn't and he hasn't acted that way. He was explaining to her that he had to kill his best friend because he was going to be killed himself, and SHE wanted him to do it!

Edited March 19, 2012 by Jenksismybitch

[Jenksismyhero]

I think it makes sense that the zombies have no sense of flanking maneuvers. They're mindless. What do you mean about the blood NOT attracting them this episode?

 

They're mindless except for the "eat humans" thing. Obviously they don't have to actually use a flanking maneuver, but they just straight up ignored living flesh walking right next to them. There were 10-15 zombies going after the women as they were leaving the house, and each one of them ignored herschel who was 5 feet to the left of them. It was only when a convenient/clever kill shot angle was devised that one came after Herschel and Rick saved him.

[GoSox05]

1 and 1a in Jenks' list

 

1. You can't run amongst zombies just fine, that's why they were being attacked as they ran from the barn. That's why some of the people died as they ran into the zombies.

 

1A. Blood does lure zombies, they never said it didn't.

[GoSox05]

So GoSox if a pink unicorn comes from the sky to save one of these characters from an impending zombie death you'd be ok with it because there are no rules? I mean come on. They've established the "rules" of the zombie world they live in and they just don't stick to them. And that's at best lousy writing and at worst just plain lazy writing.

 

Steve mentioned the awfulness of Lori. I forgot to add that to my list. I loved the fact that she was screaming about Carl being gone. So incredibly unreasonable and unbelievable for her not to be glued to him given his prior knack for wandering around the farm unattended (not to mention the fact that they boarded up the house and/or were guarding the doors...so how escaped is even a bigger mystery).

 

But most egregiously, we're 2 episodes removed from her being all "Rick you have to get rid of Shane because he's crazy," and she's now not talking to Rick EVEN THOUGH RICK CLEARLY EXPLAINED THAT SHANE WAS GOING TO KILL HIM IF HE DIDN'T KILL SHANE FIRST. WTF?! It's like two sets of writers are working on this show and they don't talk to each other or watch the episodes. How does this position jive at all? I mean, I sorta get it if she thinks he's gone bat s*** crazy, but he hasn't and he hasn't acted that way. He was explaining to her that he had to kill his best friend because he was going to be killed himself, and SHE wanted him to do it!

 

Pink unicorns would be pretty crazy. That would be going off the deep end. That would totally be changing the idea of the show.

 

Talking about not getting surrounded by zombies and then having to run into a horde of zombies in a panic is not going off the deep end.

[Jenksismyhero]

There was a LOT of brisk walking despite being surrounded by HUNDREDS of zombies in all directions. And the zombies never really went after them. It was more like they were just walking through the farm. And Rick was covered in blood (Shane) yet it didn't really attract any zombies like when he purposefully cut his hand open.

 

It just wasn't very consistent. There were better ways from them to survive the farm attack than to continually walk around or run just a little bit. If that was the case why did Shane have to kill Otis? They would have just walked at a decent pace to get away from the zombies at the school.

[StrangeSox]

1A. Blood does lure zombies, they never said it didn't.

 

Season 1 when they covered themselves in gore and blood to escape the city?

[GoSox05]

You are finding ways to hate this show. You are talking about a 15 second clip in which Rick and Carl are running through an open field as some zombies go after them and some don't. It was something I never even thought of until you broke it down.

 

It's just not that big of a deal.

[GoSox05]

Season 1 when they covered themselves in gore and blood to escape the city?

 

Right. They never said later on that zombies weren't interested in blood.

[Jenksismyhero]

You are finding ways to hate this show. You are talking about a 15 second clip in which Rick and Carl are running through an open field as some zombies go after them and some don't. It was something I never even thought of until you broke it down.

 

It's just not that big of a deal.

 

Well, it was all of them really. Herschel managed to escape despite being surrounded. Carol somehow escaped despite being cornered. The zombies straight up walked past Rick and Carl without even realizing they were right there (at the very start, before they got to the barn...and they did this two or three times. To the barn, from the barn to the house, from the house to the car, etc).

 

[Steve9347]

(4) zombie survival tip: when driving an RV to pick up people from the roof of a barn in a sea of zombies, once said people are on the roof, immediately turn the engine off and head toward the side door. Note: do not be concerned with sea of zombies coming to eat you;

My favorite part of the entire sacrificial RV run was Rick slowly climbing down the RV and jogging away from it while the hoard reached foolishly over the rickety wooden fence.

 

Basically, Rick and Carl could have done exactly what they did, without the RV. The RV coming to save them was completely pointless!

[Steve9347]

But most egregiously, we're 2 episodes removed from her being all "Rick you have to get rid of Shane because he's crazy," and she's now not talking to Rick EVEN THOUGH RICK CLEARLY EXPLAINED THAT SHANE WAS GOING TO KILL HIM IF HE DIDN'T KILL SHANE FIRST. WTF?! It's like two sets of writers are working on this show and they don't talk to each other or watch the episodes.

This I'll disagree with as apparently the writers have learned, quite wisely, that b****es be crazy.

[Steve9347]

1. You can't run amongst zombies just fine, that's why they were being attacked as they ran from the barn. That's why some of the people died as they ran into the zombies.

 

1A. Blood does lure zombies, they never said it didn't.

I don't know where the complaint is coming from, because they've been SORTA consistent with this. In season 1, the crew covered themselves in zombie guts. IE - zombies have no interest in them because they already smell like other infected zombies. This is consistent with Rick covering himself with a dead zombie body in the episode a few weeks back where Shane got caught on the bus, as well as Andrea pulling a zombie body over herself while surrounded by the hoard last night.

 

My big complaint has actually been answered as to why these people aren't getting infected by zombie blood hitting their open wounds non-stop... they're already infected. They need to die first before that takes over... that one big excuse has helped me make amends with some complaints (though not all, like all the b****ing and moaning that goes on and the severe lack of consistency).

 

Either way, I consider the show fun-bad and more popcorn watch than something like Lost or Breaking Bad where you try to figure things out as you go. I'm along for the ride, especially now that the action is really picking up.

Edited March 19, 2012 by Steve9347