jenksycat Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 9, 2012 -> 03:57 PM) To 99.5% of people he was. There were a few misguided and contrarians out there, but Rose was the consensus #1. Google around, this wasn't a Lebron = #1 pick, there was legit discussion on it. Edit - the fact that there a million "Beasley or Rose" articles in existence proves that pretty much. The fact that we were in desperate need of a low post scorer with Kirk at point was also a factor. Edited January 9, 2012 by Jenksy Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 9, 2012 -> 03:57 PM) To 99.5% of people he was. There were a few misguided and contrarians out there, but Rose was the consensus #1. Eh I wouldn't go that far, Beasley was actually the consensus 1 before Derrick's NCAA run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 9, 2012 -> 04:04 PM) Eh I wouldn't go that far, Beasley was actually the consensus 1 before Derrick's NCAA run. No....Beasley was the consensus number one for stupid people. Nobody that knows anything about basketball would have selected Beasley with all those issues over Rose. I agree that people wanted to do it....but those people are idiots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 9, 2012 -> 05:52 PM) No....Beasley was the consensus number one for stupid people. Nobody that knows anything about basketball would have selected Beasley with all those issues over Rose. I agree that people wanted to do it....but those people are idiots No....he was the consensus before the NCAA tournament and before the Bulls had the #1 Pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jan 9, 2012 -> 03:54 PM) Not a chance. s***, Rose wasn't even a clear and away #1. As popular as the Bulls are, NY is still bigger. If they were corrupt, NY would have gotten him. NY is definitely bigger, but I'd wager that their followings throughout the country are similar and then well into the Bulls' favor globally. Edited January 10, 2012 by Milkman delivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 So does the Jays' acquisition of Oliver take them out of the market for Floyd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jan 9, 2012 -> 09:21 PM) So does the Jays' acquisition of Oliver take them out of the market for Floyd? Why? Oliver is a reliever. I wonder if the market heats up further if Garza ends up in Detroit. Though who knows if Kenny is even shopping Gavin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Why do I keep seeing basketball talk everywhere? Basketball sucks, and this is a Sox forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 10, 2012 -> 12:02 AM) Why do I keep seeing basketball talk everywhere? Basketball sucks, and this is a Sox forum. BasketballDerrickRoseMichaelJordanFreeCheeseWhiteMamba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 @farrellball My source says Floyd to Jays will still happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 QUOTE (striker @ Jan 10, 2012 -> 07:23 AM) @farrellball My source says Floyd to Jays will still happen Sigh. If this is gonna happen then AA better get his act together and pull the trigger before the Sox do somethig else with the guy he'd like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2012 -> 07:36 AM) Sigh. If this is gonna happen then AA better get his act together and pull the trigger before the Sox do somethig else with the guy he'd like. Maybe AA is waiting on some other dominoes to fall, which in turn are waiting on other dominoes: Darvish (TEX), Fielder (TOR/WAS/TEX), Garza (TEX/TOR/DET). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 QUOTE (striker @ Jan 10, 2012 -> 07:18 AM) Maybe AA is waiting on some other dominoes to fall, which in turn are waiting on other dominoes: Darvish (TEX), Fielder (TOR/WAS/TEX), Garza (TEX/TOR/DET). Waiting on Darvish would be a mistake. If the Rangers can't get him signed, that just means another possible suitor for Floyd. Most likely, they are still in the running for Garza and won't turn to Floyd or other options until that gets settled. Unfortunately for KW, Garza is probably hindering his ability to move Floyd. Hopefully Epstein hurries the f*** up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 10, 2012 -> 08:42 AM) Waiting on Darvish would be a mistake. If the Rangers can't get him signed, that just means another possible suitor for Floyd. Most likely, they are still in the running for Garza and won't turn to Floyd or other options until that gets settled. Unfortunately for KW, Garza is probably hindering his ability to move Floyd. Hopefully Epstein hurries the f*** up. Not to mention Oswalt, Kudora and Jackson are all still unsigned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 QUOTE (striker @ Jan 10, 2012 -> 08:18 AM) Maybe AA is waiting on some other dominoes to fall, which in turn are waiting on other dominoes: Darvish (TEX), Fielder (TOR/WAS/TEX), Garza (TEX/TOR/DET). KW is beatable when he targets a guy in your organization and you say "Yes" to him before he has a chance to shop around and realize there are better offers for what he's trying to trade. That's how the Santos offer went down, that's how the Jackson deal went down. If you sit around and hesitate while KW has an offer on the table, then he might well get the chance to call other GM's and realize he can get an even better price for whatever it is he's trying to move. We kinda saw that with the Peavy hesitation/Deal...Hudson was in the first deal but not in the one that happened, KW pulled him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 9, 2012 -> 04:04 PM) Eh I wouldn't go that far, Beasley was actually the consensus 1 before Derrick's NCAA run. The only real push for Rose was by the Steven A Smith types, and by people who thought we needed a scoring big man more than we needed a PG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 10, 2012 -> 09:26 AM) The only real push for Rose was by the Steven A Smith types, and by people who thought we needed a scoring big man more than we needed a PG. Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 9, 2012 -> 10:23 PM) Why? Oliver is a reliever. I wonder if the market heats up further if Garza ends up in Detroit. Though who knows if Kenny is even shopping Gavin? I was just posting anything I could think of to get this thread focused back on baseball. Looks like I only succeeded for just a few posts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 10, 2012 -> 08:26 AM) The only real push for Rose was by the Steven A Smith types, and by people who thought we needed a scoring big man more than we needed a PG. Not disproving my point. Were there any critics saying to take Melo over LBJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jan 10, 2012 -> 03:39 PM) I was just posting anything I could think of to get this thread focused back on baseball. Looks like I only succeeded for just a few posts... Nice. Maybe this will help? FarrellBall FARRELL BALL My source still says that Floyd to #Jays will happen; going to believe him considering he broke the Garza and Oliver news.. #FarrellBall 12 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply Doubt this trade will happen. And I'm not sure what Garza news he's talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 10, 2012 -> 04:49 PM) FarrellBall FARRELL BALL My source still says that Floyd to #Jays will happen; going to believe him considering he broke the Garza and Oliver news.. #FarrellBall 12 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply Doubt this trade will happen. And I'm not sure what Garza news he's talking about. Yeah the Garza "news" is just a rumor as well, so he believes his source because he broke another rumor? Well, the Oliver story was news so who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jan 10, 2012 -> 03:55 PM) Yeah the Garza "news" is just a rumor as well, so he believes his source because he broke another rumor? Well, the Oliver story was news so who knows? He might have meant last season's Garza trade. Not sure. Edited January 10, 2012 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZZIE_FAN_69 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 My partner's brother has an "inside source", and apparently this rumor HAS LEGS. Take it with a grain of salt though. You can never completely trust these types of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 @FarrellBall Hearing Nadir Mohamed pulled the plug on the Floyd deal as ownership wasn't willing to spend anymore money on payroll.. #Jays #FarrellBall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (striker @ Jan 12, 2012 -> 09:40 PM) @FarrellBall Hearing Nadir Mohamed pulled the plug on the Floyd deal as ownership wasn't willing to spend anymore money on payroll.. #Jays #FarrellBall That's interesting. Floyd certainly wouldn't have put much of a dent in their payroll. I have to imagine they're not willing to spend money AND give up talent for a guy that might improve them by one or two wins at best. They're just in the wrong division. Edited January 13, 2012 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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