DirtySox Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman montero is traded for pineda 33 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 07:38 PM) JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman montero is traded for pineda 33 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply Wow. Your other thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Should benefit both sides significantly, but Pineda is a HUGE get for the Yankees. Montero can hit for sure, but the defensive value is about null. He's not a catcher. Also, more players involved in the trade. Edited January 14, 2012 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Ain't that a kick in the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I don't care how good Montero is projected to be. Why does Seattle trade a guy who looks like a dominating pitcher, a potential #1 type and who is very young? I don't understand why Seattle is making this trade. Am I over-hyping Pineda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (spiderman @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 06:51 PM) I don't care how good Montero is projected to be. Why does Seattle trade a guy who looks like a dominating pitcher, a potential #1 type and who is very young? I don't understand why Seattle is making this trade. Am I over-hyping Pineda? Seattle desperately needs hitters. Montero will do just that. (and not much else) The Mariners also have plenty of great pitching in the pipeline, notably Hultzen, Paxton and Taijuan Walker. Those are the reasons I can think of. Though I agree, I'd rather have Pineda. I wonder if one of Banuelos and Betances is coming over too? Would make the trade more palatable for the M's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 GregJohnsMLB Greg Johns No confirmation from team, but source says Mariners sending Pineda and Jose Campos to Yankees for Jesus Montero/Hector Noesi. 11 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 Campos is a pretty solid prospect in his own right. I like this deal much better for NY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I am shocked Seattle traded Pineda..................WOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Holy crap. Guess Seattle is out on Fielder then. Gotta have the DH option. Smoak and Montero is a really high hype middle of the order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Yanks also signed Kuroda tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hey Boston. We don't have a Pineda, but how about a Gavin Floyd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 08:28 PM) Yanks also signed Kuroda tonight Dollar value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Why not move Felix unless they are going to ink him to a long term deal? I would think Felix would net more and is under less team control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 07:43 PM) Why not move Felix unless they are going to ink him to a long term deal? I would think Felix would net more and is under less team control. That's what I was thinking. Appeasement of the fan base no doubt. But I really don't get this trade on the surface... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 08:43 PM) Why not move Felix unless they are going to ink him to a long term deal? I would think Felix would net more and is under less team control. Isn't Felix already under contract for another 3-4 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Kuroda is one year for $10m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 07:40 PM) Dollar value? Wow, the Yankees rotation just went from crap to good. 1. CC 2. Pineda 3. Kuroda 4. Nova 5. Hughes/Burnett/Garcia That's solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 08:02 PM) Kuroda is one year for $10m Fair value. He's a 3 win-ish pitcher. So he's worth about $15 million in terms of WAR $. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 09:17 PM) Fair value. He's a 3 win-ish pitcher. So he's worth about $15 million in terms of WAR $. Gotta be tough shifting from dodgers stadium and the NL west to Yankee stadium and the al east. Really good chance to see how good he really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 08:16 PM) Wow, the Yankees rotation just went from crap to good. 1. CC 2. Pineda 3. Kuroda 4. Nova 5. Hughes/Burnett/Garcia That's solid. Also have Betances and Banuelos waiting in the wings. Great depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 08:27 PM) Also have Betances and Banuelos waiting in the wings. Great depth. Somebody brought this up on another forum. But the Yankees should have traded Felix, not Pineda. You let the Yankees pay Felix what he's worth the next 3 years (60 million over that time) and you keep Pineda, who's cheap and has the potential to be just as good. In return, you get a boat load of the Yanks' prospects, including Montero, Betances, Banuelos, etc. This frees up a lot of money for them to go sign Fielder and you build your farm even more. Of course, there's no guarantee that the Yankees will give Seattle their entire farm for Felix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 09:27 PM) Also have Betances and Banuelos waiting in the wings. Great depth. It is really hard to see why those 2 teams with those kind of resources would go into best season without upgrading their rotations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 1. Holy s*** 2. Yankees went from AL East contenders to WS favorites (with Kuroda signing) 3. King Felix is going nowhere 4. Holy s*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 08:24 PM) Gotta be tough shifting from dodgers stadium and the NL west to Yankee stadium and the al east. Really good chance to see how good he really is. His home/road splits were actually pretty even: Home - 20-23, 3.43 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, .249 BAA Away - 21-25, 3.48 ERA, 1.21 WHIP, .249 BAA His ERAs against ARI/COL/SD/SF were 4.03/5.52/3.67/3.65 respectively. The numbers show he performed better when not facing the NL West, so should be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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