caulfield12 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) to the SOX become more and more likely by the minute? Assuming a Gavin Floyd trade for the prospects Williams/Hahn/Paddy are targeting...of course. (Also assuming that money isn't being held back for Cespedes). This eliminates the Yankees from the arms race, and brings the market of available guys down to Jackson and Oswalt, who some teams are looking at putting in the bullpen or limiting his starts. Arguably, Floyd would be more comfortable on the East Coast (Boston, maybe?) than E-JAX pitching in NY or Boston... http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-leag...MZwK752RMA5nYcB Edited January 14, 2012 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I'd take EJ back in a heartbeat, though he does work awfully slow. He'd be an innings eater, however, and we need one to replace Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 It would certainly make losing Hudson a little bit more palatable. And we wouldn't have to surrender another 1st round draft pick, like we did with Adam Dunn. One has to assume the Yankees had targeted guys who were coming off better seasons than Danks all along...so it wasn't the best environment for moving him, and KW wisely did the right thing, not trading him out of desperation but actually creating a tangible asset in the organization to go along with Alexei Ramirez, Sale, Reed, Molina and Viciedo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Well, the Yankees went from suspect rotation to top 3 in the AL in a day. The Rangers are going to sign Fielder (if they can't sign Darvish). The Angels did what they did. The Rays continue to be brilliant. All the Red Sox need is another quality starter. The Tigers are the prohibitive favorites in the Central. The White Sox haven't been this irrelevant since 1995. I'm predicting 65-97. Edited January 14, 2012 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Why get Edwin? The Sox won't be relevant in 2012, and maybe not even 2013. Edwin is approaching 30. I see no fit here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Edwin is going to end up in Baltimore or Toronto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 14, 2012 -> 12:26 AM) to the SOX become more and more likely by the minute? Among other reasons why this won't happen, the White Sox will never pursue a Boras client on the open market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Why would we want Edwin back if we're going to "rebuild"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 14, 2012 -> 10:48 AM) Why would we want Edwin back if we're going to "rebuild"? Apparently the logic involves then trading Floyd away in some fashion to a team that wants Floyd but not Jackson and is willing to give up talent + money to Floyd rather than just money for Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 14, 2012 -> 09:48 AM) Why would we want Edwin back if we're going to "rebuild"? On a year one deal? I like the idea if it keeps a pitcher from being pushed too fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 14, 2012 -> 10:12 AM) On a year one deal? I like the idea if it keeps a pitcher from being pushed too fast. I don't think a team would trade for Floyd if Jackson were available on a 1-year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 14, 2012 -> 11:20 AM) I don't think a team would trade for Floyd if Jackson were available on a 1-year deal. I don't know why a team would trade for Floyd if jackson were available. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) I'd rather just keep Floyd. I think we've accumulated enough pitching prospects for now. Floyd has a very affordable contract. But teams aren't giving up worthwhile talent for guys they can't control for 4+ years. Edited January 14, 2012 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 14, 2012 -> 12:31 AM) Well, the Yankees went from suspect rotation to top 3 in the AL in a day. The Rangers are going to sign Fielder (if they can't sign Darvish). The Angels did what they did. The Rays continue to be brilliant. All the Red Sox need is another quality starter. The Tigers are the prohibitive favorites in the Central. The White Sox haven't been this irrelevant since 1995. I'm predicting 65-97. Can't wait to see how they'd blow that high of a draft pick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I think Edwin Jackson is a good pitcher and would welcome his return to the Sox, but not at the hgh price he is asking. Plus I agree it is unlikely the Sox talk with Boras. But, I also don't agree with trading Floyd. I don't care what people think the return might be. All I can say is I am underwhelmed so far with the minor league players we have gotten in return for trades made and see it simply as a disguised salary dump. I am confused as to what KW thinks he is doing and don't know if we compete or rebuild in 2012 and 2013. If pitching is the name of the game we need to keep Floyd and maybe add a Jackson to go with youth. Guys like Jackson and Floyd aren't "old" in any sense. But, do we have money to sign Jackson. Probably not and for sure not at what Boras wants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Normally I'd say this idea doesn't make sense. But with how the current offseason is going, sure, why the f*** not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 14, 2012 -> 01:35 AM) I'd take EJ back in a heartbeat, though he does work awfully slow. He'd be an innings eater, however, and we need one to replace Mark. Why would you want Jackson? He never played for a White Sox playoff team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 14, 2012 -> 12:26 AM) to the SOX become more and more likely by the minute? Assuming a Gavin Floyd trade for the prospects Williams/Hahn/Paddy are targeting...of course. (Also assuming that money isn't being held back for Cespedes). This eliminates the Yankees from the arms race, and brings the market of available guys down to Jackson and Oswalt, who some teams are looking at putting in the bullpen or limiting his starts. Arguably, Floyd would be more comfortable on the East Coast (Boston, maybe?) than E-JAX pitching in NY or Boston... http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-leag...MZwK752RMA5nYcB EJ is NOT coming back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 14, 2012 -> 10:20 AM) I don't think a team would trade for Floyd if Jackson were available on a 1-year deal. I really doubt there is only one team out there looking for staring pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 14, 2012 -> 06:04 PM) I really doubt there is only one team out there looking for staring pitching. I really doubt there is 1 team willing to give up a reasonable amount of young talent for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 14, 2012 -> 05:06 PM) I really doubt there is 1 team willing to give up a reasonable amount of young talent for one. Its funny you posted that in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 14, 2012 -> 06:32 PM) Its funny you posted that in this thread. (I meant one of the quality of Gavin Floyd or Edwin Jackson). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 14, 2012 -> 05:33 PM) (I meant one of the quality of Gavin Floyd or Edwin Jackson). Still funnier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I'm not sure I'm understanding why the White Sox would even consider Jackson. It's time to find out if guys like Axelrod and Stewart can pitch. The White Sox aren't about to spend $10+ million, even on a 1 year deal for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 QUOTE (spiderman @ Jan 14, 2012 -> 09:35 PM) I'm not sure I'm understanding why the White Sox would even consider Jackson. It's time to find out if guys like Axelrod and Stewart can pitch. The White Sox aren't about to spend $10+ million, even on a 1 year deal for him. Zach Stewart absolutely needs a chance to pitch at AAA this year if you want to consider him a starter long-term. He's barely been above AA in his career, there's a ton of growth that can happen for him at AAA. Putting him in the big leagues to "Find out if he can pitch" might well teach you the wrong lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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