Fantl916 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 It's a joke. The actor Rob Lowe tweeted today that Peyton manning in retiring. So peeps are joking that Rob Lowe is breaking information. Since the Gavin Floyd to Blue Jays thing was a funny rumor im imagining the ESPN guy is jesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 02:35 PM) Is this a joke, or is there a Rob Lowe who is someone? jorgearangure Jorge Arangure Waiting for confirmation from Rob Lowe about Gavin Floyd trade to Blue Jays It was a joke. I was fooled too. But I had no idea who Rob Lowe was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (Fantl916 @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 02:46 PM) It's a joke. The actor Rob Lowe tweeted today that Peyton manning in retiring. So peeps are joking that Rob Lowe is breaking information. Since the Gavin Floyd to Blue Jays thing was a funny rumor im imagining the ESPN guy is jesting... Ah. I had no idea about the Lowe/Manning stuff. That actually makes this a pretty funny joke. Knowledge is half the battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 02:35 PM) Is this a joke, or is there a Rob Lowe who is someone? jorgearangure Jorge Arangure Waiting for confirmation from Rob Lowe about Gavin Floyd trade to Blue Jays Joke bigtime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 http://bosoxinjection.com/2012/01/19/shoul...or-gavin-floyd/ Should the Red Sox trade for Gavin Floyd? AUTHOR: Derek Stykalo | IN: Trades | COMMENTS: 1 Comment | Home » Trades » Should the Red Sox trade for Gavin Floyd? With Spring Training just over one month away, Red Sox GM, Ben Cherington has said he may or may not be finished tinkering with his starting pitching options. That leaves a range of possibilities for one to surmise, but one option that has again crept up is the option of trading for Chicago White Sox pitcher, Gavin Floyd. According to Jon Morosi of FOX Sports via Twitter, the Red Sox are again showing interest in Floyd, although that’s as far as it’s gone for now; kicking tires. With a number of low cost options already added to the invite list to Spring Training, the rotation is far from set, leaving an option to add a starter with Floyd’s credentials. With the trades that have taken place thus far over the winter, this deal would cost the Red Sox a package of, you guessed it, prospects. While the price tag on Floyd likely wouldn’t be as steep as Matt Garza, this is a deal that could make a lot of sense for the Red Sox. First off, let’s address the salary aspect as this topic is somehow involved in every topic regarding the Red Sox lately. Floyd is set to earn $7 million next season with a team option for $9.5 million next season. At 29-years old he’s under team control for two years, making this a fairly safe risk. In terms of team payroll, we’ve recently heard that in order to sign free-agent Roy Oswalt, the club would have to unload salary to make room. With Floyd coming in at $7 million, it’s likely the Sox would have to look at shedding payroll, providing Cherington sticks to his guns and tries to stay as close to the $178 threshold as possible. As a loyal reader and active commentor to the site, JLFCASH provides a potential package with both prospects and a couple of roster players to send to Chicago for Floyd. It includes Bryce Bentz, Brandon Workman, Andrew Miller and Michael Bowden. While this package would make sense from a value standpoint, it doesn’t address the need to shed payroll as Miller is set to make just over $1 million this season and Bowden is below that. Should Cherington slide over the threshold and pull the trigger on Floyd, he’s getting a good number four or five starter, one that he will be able to rely on to eat some innings. He’s averaged over 193 innings in each of his last four seasons ever since becoming a full time starter for the White Sox. His career numbers are 58-55, 4.50 ERA, 1.326 WHIP, 6.9 SO/9 and 3.0 BB/9. Floyd does give up a few more hits than what is maybe comfortable, but with an improved defense behind him at Fenway Park you could expect his WHIP to lower. While his base on balls average is somewhat of a concern, he does strike out almost seven batters per 9 innings, proving he can get the big out. Last season with the White Sox, Floyd went 12-13 with a 4.37 ERA and an improved WHIP of 1.162. His strikeout ratio was consistent at 7.0 and it’s worth making note that his walks ratio was down from his career average to 2.1 per 9 innings; a promising statistic. His best season was in 2008 when the righty went 17-8 with a 3.84 ERA and a 1.260 WHIP, all while working in a career high 206.1 innings as a member of the White Sox. His WAR rating has been around 3 or higher in each of his seasons as a starter, making him a good value for his $7 million next season. Cherington has said that he won’t rule anything out in terms of adding another starter. He also said that if Spring Training started tomorrow, he’s comfortable with what they currently have. Gavin Floyd would add some depth to the rotation and while other options such as Carlos Silva and Aaron Cook could provide similar depth, they’re coming off injuries and the uncertainty is far greater than it is on Floyd. This is a deal that the Red Sox should make. One thing we do know is that Cherington won’t rush into anything, including this trade. This is evident by his non-reaction to the Yankees flurry of activity last week. He’s staying patient and will wait for the right deal to come along. If it doesn’t, the Sox still have one of the best trio of starters in the game. The rest can be patched together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 OK, yeah, give me Brentz, Workman, Miller, and Bowden instead of McGuire and Drabek. I'm perfectly fine with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) Earlier in the day, Troy Renck of the Denver Post initially tweeted, "the Rockies are close to acquiring Boston's Marco Scutaro." However, later on Renck tweeted that while the Red Sox and Rockies had discussed a trade for Scutaro, "it appears now won't happen." Last season Scutaro posted career-highs in both batting average (.299) and slugging percentage (.423) in 113 games played. Boston exercised Scutaro's $6 million option, the final year of his contract, back on Oct. 30. One possible motivation for any move involving Scutaro would be to free up payroll, with the shortstop schedule to make $6 million in 2012. While there have been reports that the Red Sox have expressed interest in White Sox starting pitcher Gavin Floyd (who will make $7 million in '12) and free agent outfielder Cody Ross, according to a source neither move could be made unless a trade was made to offer budgetary relief. http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-jus...t-scutaro-trade Edited January 21, 2012 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 20, 2012 -> 08:52 PM) http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-jus...t-scutaro-trade We should have enough salary relief at this point where we could pick up a bit of Gavin's contract and get some higher level prospects back. I know that's unlikely to happen but it'd be nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 21, 2012 -> 11:25 AM) We should have enough salary relief at this point where we could pick up a bit of Gavin's contract and get some higher level prospects back. I know that's unlikely to happen but it'd be nice... Yes, this is exactly the best case scenario for us from a return standpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Boston would have to freaking overwhelm the Sox before the Sox pick up a large portion of G's contract. The White Sox paying for another team to try to win the AL? Yeah, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 21, 2012 -> 11:34 AM) Boston would have to freaking overwhelm the Sox before the Sox pick up a large portion of G's contract. The White Sox paying for another team to try to win the AL? Yeah, no. And that's what you hope for. If the Sox trade Gavin they're all out anyways, pick up some of the money and hope to get overwhelmed with a prospect package... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 21, 2012 -> 11:38 AM) And that's what you hope for. If the Sox trade Gavin they're all out anyways, pick up some of the money and hope to get overwhelmed with a prospect package... Pretty much. Who cares if they pick up a portion of the contract? It will help them in their rebuilding effort. The Sox would be even further out if they trade Gavin, so it hardly matters if they are "helping" Boston win. Edited January 21, 2012 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 21, 2012 -> 11:38 AM) And that's what you hope for. If the Sox trade Gavin they're all out anyways, pick up some of the money and hope to get overwhelmed with a prospect package... I am unfamiliar with their farm system. Who do they have that we can make a difference for us in the near future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jan 21, 2012 -> 12:41 PM) I am unfamiliar with their farm system. Who do they have that we can make a difference for us in the near future? Near future? Very little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jan 21, 2012 -> 11:41 AM) I am unfamiliar with their farm system. Who do they have that we can make a difference for us in the near future? Probably not many that would help in the near future. Maybe Middlebrooks. Most of their guys are a year or more away. I'd wager guys like Workman, Ranaudo, and Brentz are players Kenny would like. Maybe Jacobs. Though it shouldn't matter much. Kenny can't be picky about only getting AAA guys. He needs solid prospects period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Per MLBTradeRumors Rockies close to acquiring Scutaro. Bidding war between Jays and Red Sox for Floyd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 21, 2012 -> 04:52 PM) Per MLBTradeRumors Rockies close to acquiring Scutaro. Bidding war between Jays and Red Sox for Floyd? I really hope so, but I bet the Sawx are going after Oswalt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 alexspeier Alex Speier Obviously, moving Scutaro's $6M would liberate resources for #redsox to pursue starters. Oswalt and Floyd (among others) have been on radar 35 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 21, 2012 -> 04:57 PM) I really hope so, but I bet the Sawx are going after Oswalt. Or Garza maybe. Even though Oswalt would only cost them money I think he'd be a bad fit in the AL. Can the Red Sox take that risk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 21, 2012 -> 05:24 PM) Or Garza maybe. Even though Oswalt would only cost them money I think he'd be a bad fit in the AL. Can the Red Sox take that risk? Garzas arbitration numbers are scaring teams off right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 jcrasnick Jerry Crasnick The Scutaro trade frees up some $$ for #RedSox to make an "aggressive bid'' for Roy Oswalt, said a baseball source 42 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 How's this for a compromise Ramirez to Red Sox, Floyd to Jays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Phil Rogers proposes the Sox trade Floyd + Alexei to Boston. Which makes no sense considering Boston just dumped Scutaro for almost nothing because of monetary issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 21, 2012 -> 05:57 PM) Phil Rogers proposes the Sox trade Floyd + Alexei to Boston. Which makes no sense considering Boston just dumped Scutaro for almost nothing because of monetary issues. Well if it made sense, then Phil Rogers wouldn't have said it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 21, 2012 -> 06:04 PM) Well if it made sense, then Phil Rogers wouldn't have said it Pretty much. I'm most amused by Red Sox sites/commenters taking his speculative tweet as a legitimate option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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