ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 22, 2012 -> 08:40 PM) Building around a 31 year old? I actually thought he was 28. He is apparently 30. Maybe not "build around", but he isn't old like Paulie and could still be very good in about 2 years when this team is ready to compete again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 22, 2012 -> 07:43 PM) Dunn, Viciedo, Flowers, and maybe even Ian Gac I guess. Alexei has.....Eduardo Escobar. Besides a 1B is 100x easier to replace than a SS. No. Dunn is a DH. Viciedo IS IN RIGHT FIELD. NO MORE MOVING. Flowers is our only non-AJ catcher. Ian Gac? Eduardo Escobar and Tyler Kuhn make more sense than any of the four you said. Edited January 23, 2012 by Quinarvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 22, 2012 -> 08:52 PM) No. Dunn is a DH. Viciedo IS IN RIGHT FIELD. NO MORE MOVING. Flowers is our only non-AJ catcher. Ian Gac? Eduardo Escobar and Tyler Kuhn make more sense than any of the four you said. Then agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 22, 2012 -> 07:52 PM) Eduardo Escobar and Tyler Kuhn make more sense than any of the four you said. Osvaldo Martinez too. Though I don't see Alexei being moved unless Kenny decides to do a full-on blow this s*** up rebuild. At this point in time I feel Kenny is standing pat. Though I hope Floyd is moved, at least at the deadline when the Sox are out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 22, 2012 -> 07:52 PM) No. Dunn is a DH. Viciedo IS IN RIGHT FIELD. NO MORE MOVING. Flowers is our only non-AJ catcher. Ian Gac? Eduardo Escobar and Tyler Kuhn make more sense than any of the four you said. Gac is a Brave now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 22, 2012 -> 08:20 PM) Gac is a Brave now. He's also a 25 year old that hasn't even touched AA yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 22, 2012 -> 07:54 PM) Then agree to disagree. I love this line because it really means "I'm wrong but you won't see me admitting it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 05:00 PM) I love this line because it really means "I'm wrong but you won't see me admitting it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Sell Sell Sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 05:00 PM) I love this line because it really means "I'm wrong but you won't see me admitting it" Usually it means "I'm sick of arguing with you" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 08:51 PM) Usually it means "I'm sick of arguing with you" That's what it originally meant. But recently (and I don't mean Joe with my next statement, I'm being very general) it's mostly been used by dumb people that want to sound smarter. To them, it looks better to someone witnessing the debate to pretend like it's futile to continue when in reality it's just admitting defeat without actually admitting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 While most current reports have Boston now most interested in Edwin Jackson, and Oswalt not fully committed to Boston, it sounds like the Red Sox are still considering Gavin. The Red Sox have kept channels open with the Chicago White Sox regarding Gavin Floyd, a former No. 1 draft choice who offers fewer health risks than Oswalt. One league source said Wednesday the White Sox are looking for prospects in return, not necessarily Boston's top prospects, but two or three players with at least one having a high ceiling. Obviously, however, the sides have not come to any agreement on who those prospects should be. Despite occasional bouts of erraticism, Floyd, a 6-foot-4 right-hander who turns 29 on Friday, has pitched at least 187 innings in each of the past four seasons. He would probably be a safer option than Oswalt at this stage. At an average annual value of $3.85 million, his contract would also fit in better with Boston's desire to stay under the luxury-tax threshold. http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/7...ngthen-rotation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Itll get done eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 09:41 PM) Itll get done eventually. I still hope Toronto is in the mix. As far as Boston, I'd be very okay with a Ranaudo + Workman package. Jacobs + Workman would work too. Edited January 26, 2012 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 09:51 PM) I still hope Toronto is in the mix. As far as Boston, I'd be very okay with a Ranaudo + Workman package. Im not sure Toronto is still in the mix. Id be ok with that to. I dont see Oswalt or Jackson going to Boston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 09:51 PM) Usually it means "I'm sick of arguing with you" Pretty much. But it's not that I'm sick of arguing that topic, I just think it's useless to argue over which of our awful minor leaguers and backups are better than the other. Not worth the trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 it looks like that the Red Sox will be trading for Floyd. Cause Oswalt either wants to go to the Rangers or Cards and Baltimore is offering Edwin Jackson a 4 yr deal. I hope that we get Jacobs as part of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I worry Gavin would get eaten alive in Boston... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 26, 2012 -> 11:29 AM) I worry Gavin would get eaten alive in Boston... to be honest, if he goes to Boston, that isnt my worry anymore. It would be a shame to see him get obliterated by the media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 26, 2012 -> 11:41 AM) to be honest, if he goes to Boston, that isnt my worry anymore. It would be a shame to see him get obliterated by the media Yeah, but Jesus will protect him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 26, 2012 -> 11:41 AM) to be honest, if he goes to Boston, that isnt my worry anymore. It would be a shame to see him get obliterated by the media After his time in Philly I have always worried about his mental toughness. I agree that I would worry a lot less if he were elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 In his baseball video blog, Buster Olney talks about Boston's pursuit of pitching depth and says new GM Ben Cherington has taken a measured approach. He says the Sox have a one-year offer out to Roy Oswalt for "about $5 million" and "seem to be in the same position with Edwin Jackson." http://proxy.espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-s...fered-oswalt-5m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 26, 2012 -> 01:12 PM) http://proxy.espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-s...fered-oswalt-5m That wont get either of them IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 26, 2012 -> 03:17 PM) That wont get either of them IMO Works better us that way. I just hope if Floyd is traded we get some decent guys back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 If they're only willing to offer those guys 1/$5, even though Floyd keeps them under the tax, they'd have to give up talent and basically similar amounts of money for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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