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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 20, 2011 -> 07:21 PM)
He lit up Knox on the sideline after that INT. He was furious

 

I was really happy to see that. Usually Jay would just shrug his pads and shake is head by himself. I'd much rather have him light up a guy when he makes a mistake like that (every now and again at least).

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I have no issues at all with that fake punt playcall at the end. That's the exact situation you want to call a play like that. Podlesh just didn't make the throw. If he does, then that's 6, because clearly San Diego wasn't expecting it and nobody was in position anywhere. If not, then at least it's a first down, and San Diego had no timeouts left because Norv Turner is a f***ing idiot. If it fails then they are still losing by 11 and need a TD, an onside recovery, and another TD (or a 2-point conversion and a FG) inside of 2 minutes with no timeouts left. Not exactly a piece of cake.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 20, 2011 -> 07:50 PM)
I have no issues at all with that fake punt playcall at the end. That's the exact situation you want to call a play like that. Podlesh just didn't make the throw. If he does, then that's 6, because clearly San Diego wasn't expecting it and nobody was in position anywhere. If not, then at least it's a first down, and San Diego had no timeouts left because Norv Turner is a f***ing idiot. If it fails then they are still losing by 11 and need a TD, an onside recovery, and another TD (or a 2-point conversion and a FG) inside of 2 minutes with no timeouts left. Not exactly a piece of cake.

 

 

Right, but why make it any easier on them by giving them the ball on the 40? I really disagree with the play call. It's not that egregious, but still . . . up 11, just focus on making it as hard as possible for the Chargers to drive and win the game.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 20, 2011 -> 06:50 PM)
I have no issues at all with that fake punt playcall at the end. That's the exact situation you want to call a play like that. Podlesh just didn't make the throw. If he does, then that's 6, because clearly San Diego wasn't expecting it and nobody was in position anywhere. If not, then at least it's a first down, and San Diego had no timeouts left because Norv Turner is a f***ing idiot. If it fails then they are still losing by 11 and need a TD, an onside recovery, and another TD (or a 2-point conversion and a FG) inside of 2 minutes with no timeouts left. Not exactly a piece of cake.

I just don't see the need to even bother taking the risk. Kick the ball and make them drive the majority of the field, get an onside kick, and score again. Don't cut the field in half for them.

 

And I disagree about it being the perfect time to do that. The perfect time to do it would have been in a closer game later in the season (perhaps the playoffs) when we really needed points.

 

But whatever, a great win nonetheless. Jay played great. The receivers played a great game I thought as well.

 

Only disappointing thing is our run blocking is just not what it has been. The loss of Williams has really hurt us it seems. Either that, or teams are just really gearing up for the run and allowing the passing game to benefit.

 

One thing I would love to see is more screens to Forte now that they are shutting him down in the running game.

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My thoughts about that game:

 

Edwin Williams did a solid job filling in for Chris Williams. He wasn't as good, but he was ok. No big mistakes or anything.

 

Martz called a solid, balanced gameplan. It helped that Cutler was brilliant and could do no wrong today (not really reflected in his completion percentage for whatever reason).

 

Williams dropped another perfectly thrown bomb from Cutler early on (again) but redeemed himself later with like 3 straight catches in a critical situation. Knox actually showed up to play too, he actually made a catch in traffic, and THEN he even tried to fight off a defender! Wow! But then, as if to make sure he limited the amount of props he would be getting at the game, he fell down on a perfectly delivered throw from Cutler that got intercepted, reminding us all he is still Johnny Knox and that's what he does best.

 

Marinelli's gameplay was WTF. Instead of playing zone he decides to play Cover 1 and blitz Rivers, which wasn't working (Rivers 0 sacks and no pressure worth mentioning). Tillman was getting smoked in man against Jackson (not all that uncommon actually) but he stays with it anyway. So much for limiting the big play!

 

Forte got shut down almost completely. Clearly their entire defensive gameplan was to limit Forte, every time he touched the ball there was a sea of white jerseys.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 19, 2011 -> 04:53 PM)
NFL Picks for the week:

 

1) Carolina +7

2) Arizona +10

3) Atlanta -6

4) Philadelphia +5.5

5) New England -14

6) Washington/Dallas over 41.5

7) Dallas -7

8) Buffalo +2

Yikes...what a brutal week...the NFL giveth, and the NFL taketh away :)

 

The Carolina and Atlanta outcomes were especially frustrating...

 

Let me see...that's 1-4-1 on the day.

 

Buffalo is now terrible, Miami is a completely different team with Matt Moore hitting his stride, and I will forever hate the Atlanta Falcons for blowing that cover against Jake Locker.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 20, 2011 -> 06:59 PM)
My thoughts about that game:

 

Edwin Williams did a solid job filling in for Chris Williams. He wasn't as good, but he was ok. No big mistakes or anything.

 

Martz called a solid, balanced gameplan. It helped that Cutler was brilliant and could do no wrong today (not really reflected in his completion percentage for whatever reason).

 

Williams dropped another perfectly thrown bomb from Cutler early on (again) but redeemed himself later with like 3 straight catches in a critical situation. Knox actually showed up to play too, he actually made a catch in traffic, and THEN he even tried to fight off a defender! Wow! But then, as if to make sure he limited the amount of props he would be getting at the game, he fell down on a perfectly delivered throw from Cutler that got intercepted, reminding us all he is still Johnny Knox and that's what he does best.

 

Marinelli's gameplay was WTF. Instead of playing zone he decides to play Cover 1 and blitz Rivers, which wasn't working (Rivers 0 sacks and no pressure worth mentioning). Tillman was getting smoked in man against Jackson (not all that uncommon actually) but he stays with it anyway. So much for limiting the big play!

 

Forte got shut down almost completely. Clearly their entire defensive gameplan was to limit Forte, every time he touched the ball there was a sea of white jerseys.

I agree with this, but it doesn't help that his safeties can't seem to get over the top in time...it's not his responsibility to stick with Jackson 40 yards down the field. The safety has to be rotating over on those plays and Peanut is more responsible for the shallower routes. That being said, he wasn't exactly stopping those either. He did cause a critical fumble though which really turned the tide of the game.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 20, 2011 -> 08:03 PM)
I agree with this, but it doesn't help that his safeties can't seem to get over the top in time...it's not his responsibility to stick with Jackson 40 yards down the field. The safety has to be rotating over on those plays and Peanut is more responsible for the shallower routes. That being said, he wasn't exactly stopping those either. He did cause a critical fumble though which really turned the tide of the game.

On the last big play Conte took a bad route to the ball and didn't get himself into position to do anything about the play. Still though I wish he would stick with what works. There's no need to blitz Rivers if you're not getting pressure, we could use the extra guy in coverage to help Peppers and Idonije.

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I don't expect many people to agree with me about the fake punt, but in any case at least if you want to b**** at someone about the play, don't b**** at Martz like I've seen some people do on Facebook. That's either Toub, or Lovie who signs off on decisions like that.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 20, 2011 -> 07:04 PM)
On the last big play Conte took a bad route to the ball and didn't get himself into position to do anything about the play. Still though I wish he would stick with what works. There's no need to blitz Rivers if you're not getting pressure, we could use the extra guy in coverage to help Peppers and Idonije.

Oh I don't disagree with what you're saying about the blitzing. I was just commenting on Peanut's play.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 20, 2011 -> 07:05 PM)
I don't expect many people to agree with me about the fake punt, but in any case at least if you want to b**** at someone about the play, don't b**** at Martz like I've seen some people do on Facebook. That's either Toub, or Lovie who signs off on decisions like that.

I was more angry about Lovie calling TO before Novak attempted the 55 yarder....wtf are you thinking?

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 20, 2011 -> 08:08 PM)
I was more angry about Lovie calling TO before Novak attempted the 55 yarder....wtf are you thinking?

Oh god I HATE that. Icing the kicker is so stupid. I swear I've seen the kicker miss the first and make the second much more often than the other way around. That it hit the crossbar was luck.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 20, 2011 -> 08:06 PM)
Oh I don't disagree with what you're saying about the blitzing. I was just commenting on Peanut's play.

Overall I think he was solid. My point was that he shouldn't have been in a position to fail like that.

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