Steve9347 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:03 PM) If Cutler doesn't get hurt they are probably 10-3 right now. So I don't really think that was bathing in kool-aid. They were playing well. You are earning some points back after the Rodgers baiting. Well done, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGone33 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:03 PM) If Cutler doesn't get hurt they are probably 10-3 right now. So I don't really think that was bathing in kool-aid. They were playing well. They were playing well, but there isn't one legitimate reason for anyone to believe they were going to beat the Packers..not one. Same goes for the rest of the NFC, doesn't matter what anyone is doing, they aren't going up to Green Bay and winning in the playoffs. So as a 49ers fan, I say thank God Derrick Rose is back...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:03 PM) If Cutler doesn't get hurt they are probably 10-3 right now. So I don't really think that was bathing in kool-aid. They were playing well. By bathing I mean legitimately thinking they could beat anyone. In '06 and last year, while fun, I knew they didn't have a chance at winning it all. But with a somehow still clicking defense, ridiculous ST, and finally a respectable offense I thought there was a chance for the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:03 PM) If Cutler doesn't get hurt they are probably 10-3 right now. So I don't really think that was bathing in kool-aid. They were playing well. Playing anything above "completely terrible" on offense would have won each of the last three games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:15 PM) They were playing well, but there isn't one legitimate reason for anyone to believe they were going to beat the Packers..not one. Same goes for the rest of the NFC, doesn't matter what anyone is doing, they aren't going up to Green Bay and winning in the playoffs. So as a 49ers fan, I say thank God Derrick Rose is back...... I'm still concerned about New Orleans. I know they don't play as well on the road, but they are the one team that can keep up with the Packers scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 06:15 PM) They were playing well, but there isn't one legitimate reason for anyone to believe they were going to beat the Packers..not one. Same goes for the rest of the NFC, doesn't matter what anyone is doing, they aren't going up to Green Bay and winning in the playoffs. So as a 49ers fan, I say thank God Derrick Rose is back...... dude, it's the nfl, lesser teams beat better teams all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGone33 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:16 PM) By bathing I mean legitimately thinking they could beat anyone. In '06 and last year, while fun, I knew they didn't have a chance at winning it all. But with a somehow still clicking defense, ridiculous ST, and finally a respectable offense I thought there was a chance for the first time. Considering GB has played 10 times better this year than last, how in the world could you be more confident the Bears could beat anyone this year and win it all versus last year? Throw in home field in the NFC Champ Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:15 PM) They were playing well, but there isn't one legitimate reason for anyone to believe they were going to beat the Packers..not one. Same goes for the rest of the NFC, doesn't matter what anyone is doing, they aren't going up to Green Bay and winning in the playoffs. So as a 49ers fan, I say thank God Derrick Rose is back...... I wouldn't pick against the Pack, but I could see the Saints or the Giants giving them a good fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:20 PM) I'm still concerned about New Orleans. I know they don't play as well on the road, but they are the one team that can keep up with the Packers scoring. Yup. The only way to beat the Packers is to score the football. You're not going to beat them 14-10. I know the Bears were playing well before Cutler got hurt. But I never bought them as a viable SB threat. Not with their WR core and o-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGone33 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:20 PM) dude, it's the nfl, lesser teams beat better teams all the time. Lesser teams don't beat teams playing like GB, not when there is that much of a gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 07:22 PM) Lesser teams don't beat teams playing like GB, not when there is that much of a gap. They do indeed, see: NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGone33 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:24 PM) They do indeed, see: NFL history. I don't care about history, I'm talking about this Green Bay team.....a team that has won 19 games straight and doesn't lose to lesser teams..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:22 PM) Lesser teams don't beat teams playing like GB, not when there is that much of a gap. That's what they said about the 2007 Patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGone33 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:26 PM) That's what they said about the 2007 Patriots 2007 Patriots didn't have Aaron Rodgers........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 This Green Bay team isnt even the best team to ever play in the NFL. The problem for Green Bay potentially will be a devastatingly cold winter game with huge winds that negates much of the passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:26 PM) That's what they said about the 2007 Patriots Well to be fair, the Giants beat them in a neutral setting. I just can't see any NFC team going to Lambeau and winning. Edited December 12, 2011 by Jordan4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 It's not like the Packers have blown everybody out. They've had some close games and have some obvious flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:28 PM) 2007 Patriots didn't have Aaron Rodgers........ True, they just had some scrub named Tom Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Packers are going to be harder to beat in a neutral setting than Lambeau. They are built for pristine conditions, not terrible ones. Catching a pass in negative wind chill is drastically harder than in 70 and indoor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGone33 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:33 PM) Packers are going to be harder to beat in a neutral setting than Lambeau. They are built for pristine conditions, not terrible ones. Catching a pass in negative wind chill is drastically harder than in 70 and indoor. Which simply means it's harder for the other teams too, and those teams don't play up in GB on a regular basis..... GB offense in bad conditions > every other NFC offense in bad conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Thats not true, a team that would rely more on running the ball would do better. A team like the Giants could be tough match up in the cold, considering GB only beat them by 3 points in good conditions with a healthy Greg Jennings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 01:04 PM) Thats not true, a team that would rely more on running the ball would do better. A team like the Giants could be tough match up in the cold, considering GB only beat them by 3 points in good conditions with a healthy Greg Jennings The Giants? Their running game sucks this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 02:10 PM) The Giants? Their running game sucks this year. Wow, after checking, the Giants actually have the fewest yards on teh ground and worst yards per carry in the NFL this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 (edited) If Brandon Jacobs and Bradshaw are healthy their running game is decent. Jacobs had a 7.4 ypc average against GB and 5.3 against Dallas. They havent run for a lot of yards this year, but thats a combination of things (one of them being Manning throwing for a ton of yards and the other being their defense giving up a lot of points.) That being said, the NFC just doesnt have a ton of run based attacks. Which is why I never said that the Giants were a great run team, just that they would rely more on the run. (edit) If you look at the possible playoff teams in the NFC, almost all of them are going to rely on aerial attacks. Id take the Giants running game over Atlanta, NO, Dallas, Detroit and San Fran. Edited December 12, 2011 by Soxbadger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 12:03 PM) If Cutler doesn't get hurt they are probably 10-3 right now. So I don't really think that was bathing in kool-aid. They were playing well. This reminds me of the NCAA season, the two best teams would have been in the same division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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