MexSoxFan#1 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Dec 13, 2011 -> 11:31 AM) Bleh, I'll stick with the one thing I do actually like about Tboner: you instantly know whether or not someone knows anything about football by their stance on him. This sums it up pretty well. Tebow will fail in the long run...remember when Vince Young had that great start to his career?Where is he now?If you can't throw in the NFL, you will eventually fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Jacksonville is on prime time again this week. I'm sure everyone is excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 10:51 AM) Jacksonville is on prime time again this week. I'm sure everyone is excited. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Dec 13, 2011 -> 11:56 AM) Remember when all Vince Young did was win? Wasn't that fun too? lol, should've read the whole thread first before posting, it looks like I copied kjshoe04's post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Lombardi: Jay Cutler Could Have Been MVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 10:57 AM) Lombardi: Jay Cutler Could Have Been MVP Him and Peyton Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 10:57 AM) Lombardi: Jay Cutler Could Have Been MVP That's why I hate when QBs try to make a play after an INT, f*** it, don't get involved because only bad can happen like where the Bears are currently at.And they were playing very well, a team like the Bears had as good a shot at knocking off the Pack as any in the NFL in the playoffs under the weather conditions at Lambeau... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 12:02 PM) Him and Peyton Manning. Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Jay Cutler, Tim Tebow, John Skelton, there are your MVP candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Defensive POY is pretty tough. Patrick Willis, Von Miller, Ndamukong Suh, Julius Peppers, Clay Matthews... Who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 06:30 PM) Defensive POY is pretty tough. Patrick Willis, Von Miller, Ndamukong Suh, Julius Peppers, Clay Matthews... Who else? Tim Tebow Jared Allen Jon Joseph (Texans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 06:30 PM) Defensive POY is pretty tough. Patrick Willis, Von Miller, Ndamukong Suh, Julius Peppers, Clay Matthews... Who else? I'm not sure if this list is serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 06:33 PM) I'm not sure if this list is serious? Peppers, Willis, & Miller are definitely candidates. Matthews maybe, Suh not as much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 07:30 PM) Defensive POY is pretty tough. Patrick Willis, Von Miller, Ndamukong Suh, Julius Peppers, Clay Matthews... Who else? Suh, Peppers and Matthews don't even have a chance. Not even in the conversation, ESPECIALLY Suh. Willis, Miller and Jared Allen are probably the 3 candidates. Terrell Suggs could get some attention. MAYBE Charles Woodson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 07:36 PM) Suh, Peppers and Matthews don't even have a chance. Not even in the conversation, ESPECIALLY Suh. Willis, Miller and Jared Allen are probably the 3 candidates. Terrell Suggs could get some attention. MAYBE Charles Woodson. How they play affects how their team does. I was playing off of Rowand's Tebow/Skelton/Manning MVP talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 06:36 PM) Suh, Peppers and Matthews don't even have a chance. Not even in the conversation, ESPECIALLY Suh. Willis, Miller and Jared Allen are probably the 3 candidates. Terrell Suggs could get some attention. MAYBE Charles Woodson. I would say Miller has very little chance too simply because he is a rookie and they usually have to blow the competition out of the water to win an award like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 06:36 PM) Suh, Peppers and Matthews don't even have a chance. Not even in the conversation, ESPECIALLY Suh. Willis, Miller and Jared Allen are probably the 3 candidates. Terrell Suggs could get some attention. MAYBE Charles Woodson. How is Peppers not even in the conversation? He is the driving force behind one of the better defenses. He has already won a NFC def. player of the month award. He may only have nine sacks, but he has been dominating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 When Suh plays, the Lions dominate on D. When he doesn't they aren't as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 06:42 PM) When Suh plays, the Lions dominate on D. When he doesn't they aren't as good. Suh isnt having a great season stats wise and when it comes to awards those matter. Even if he was nobody would win if they get suspended two games that season for stomping. Peppers having a good season but he isnt in the picture and clay Mathews like Suh both had better seasons last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Dec 14, 2011 -> 08:14 PM) Suh isnt having a great season stats wise and when it comes to awards those matter. Even if he was nobody would win if they get suspended two games that season for stomping. Peppers having a good season but he isnt in the picture and clay Mathews like Suh both had better seasons last year. Right. I was talking about how much those guys mean to their teams, not predicting the actual MVP. Peyton Manning, Jay Cutler, Stephen Jackson, Marshawn Lynch and Frank Gore are essential to their teams, even though this is not their MVP year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Jared Allen could break the sack record this year. I would think he would win it. He is on a really bad defense though. I don't know if they take that into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 15, 2011 -> 08:31 AM) Jared Allen could break the sack record this year. I would think he would win it. He is on a really bad defense though. I don't know if they take that into account. I was wondering the same thing. According to Wikipedia, of the last 15 winners, only one was a defense not in the top 10. That was Strahan when he broke the sack record. Only 3 of those winners didn't make the playoffs either. In order to win it, Allen may have to break the sack record or at least go over 20. A meeting vs. Lance Louis & company in Week 17 should help his cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 15, 2011 -> 09:36 AM) I was wondering the same thing. According to Wikipedia, of the last 15 winners, only one was a defense not in the top 10. That was Strahan when he broke the sack record. Only 3 of those winners didn't make the playoffs either. In order to win it, Allen may have to break the sack record or at least go over 20. A meeting vs. Lance Louis & company in Week 17 should help his cause. Allen has been destroyed the last 2 times he's gone up against Webb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 @mikecwright: #Bears receiver Sam Hurd arrested last night on federal drug charges, according to Dallas Morning News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Sam Hurd arrested on Federal drug charges yay alma mater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 15, 2011 -> 10:16 AM) @mikecwright: #Bears receiver Sam Hurd arrested last night on federal drug charges, according to Dallas Morning News QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 15, 2011 -> 10:28 AM) Sam Hurd arrested on Federal drug charges yay alma mater. :o :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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