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QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 22, 2011 -> 10:31 PM)
Any Colts fan cheering at the end of the game tonight is an idiot. Why are you cheering? And congrats to the Texans, who blew the inside track to a bye by losing to the Panthers at home and then at the Colts.

Colts LUCK may have run out tonight pardon the pun. If STL, MINN and IND tie records STL #1 and MINN #2 have a weaker strength of schedule which is the tie-breaker Ouch babe!

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QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 22, 2011 -> 10:31 PM)
Any Colts fan cheering at the end of the game tonight is an idiot. Why are you cheering? And congrats to the Texans, who blew the inside track to a bye by losing to the Panthers at home and then at the Colts.

 

They finally are playing like a team that lost their top two QBs, their top 3 in the league receiver, and their stud defensive end. They were hanging in there for a while, but its starting to fall apart.

 

 

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QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 22, 2011 -> 10:38 PM)
Colts LUCK may have run out tonight pardon the pun. If STL, MINN and IND tie records STL #1 and MINN #2 have a weaker strength of schedule which is the tie-breaker Ouch babe!

 

If STL ends up #1, that would be interesting. They have a very young QB who is making big money, so that would be a much tougher decision that what the Colts are facing.

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 22, 2011 -> 10:43 PM)
If STL ends up #1, that would be interesting. They have a very young QB who is making big money, so that would be a much tougher decision that what the Colts are facing.

Even If they keep Bradford teams will lineup bigtime to get the pick! Stl coach and staff are being fired at years end. I tnink they keep Luck and trade Bradford.

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QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 22, 2011 -> 10:52 PM)
The Colts still need to beat the Jaguars next week to lose the #1 pick.

NFL network is not correct Stl has 2 wins now and so does Minn, Yes If Stl or Minn win then Ind has a good shot. Stl vs Pitt and SF i see them losing both games finishing with 2 wins..

 

A look at the most difficult schedules in 2011 (based on opponents’ 2010 record), courtesy of SFLGames.com.

 

Team Combined (W-L-T) Record & Percentage

1. Carolina Panthers 142-114-0 .555

2. Buffalo Bills 137-119-0 .535

3t. New York Jets* 133-123-0 .520

3t. Indianapolis Colts* 133-123-0 .520

3t. Jacksonville Jaguars 133-123-0 .520

3t. Kansas City Chiefs* 133-123-0 .520

3t. San Diego Chargers 133-133-0 .520

3t. Denver Broncos 133-123-0 .520

3t. Detroit Lions 133-123-0 .520

10t. Miami Dolphins 132-124-0 .516

10t. Houston Texans 132-124-0 .516

10t. Minnesota Vikings 132-124-0 .516

13t. Green Bay Packers* 130-126-0 .508

13t. New Orleans Saints* 130-126-0 .508

15t. New England Patriots* 129-127-0 .504

15t. Philadelphia Eagles* 129-127-0 .504

15t. Dallas Cowboys 129-127-0 .504

18. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 127-129-0 .496

19t. Cleveland Browns 126-130-0 .492

19t. Oakland Raiders 126-130-0 .492

19t. New York Giants 126-130-0 .492

19t. Atlanta Falcons* 126-130-0 .492

23t. Tennessee Titans 125-131-0 .488

23t. Chicago Bears* 125-131-0 .488

23t. Seattle Seahawks* 125-131-0 .488

26. St. Louis Rams 122-134-0 .477

27t. Pittsburgh Steelers* 121-135-0 .473

27t. Cincinnati Bengals 121-135-0 .473

27t. Washington Redskins 121-135-0 .473

30. San Francisco 49ers 119-137-0 .465

31. Baltimore Ravens* 117-139-0 .457

32. Arizona Cardinals 113-143-0 .441

 

 

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I was going off a Dan Wetzel tweet which was a mistake. So looking at non-common opponents the Colts need these teems to win: CHI, DET, GB, ARZ, WASH, DEN, OAK, SD and these teams to lose: HOU, JAC, TEN, BAL, CIN, CLE, PIT, NE.

 

Dear god, the Vikings getting Andrew Luck would be a disaster. Oddly enough, losing the next 2 weeks would be rather beneficial for the Bears.

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QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 22, 2011 -> 11:06 PM)
I was going off a Dan Wetzel tweet which was a mistake. So looking at non-common opponents the Colts need these teems to win: CHI, DET, GB, ARZ, WASH, DEN, OAK, SD and these teams to lose: HOU, JAC, TEN, BAL, CIN, CLE, PIT, NE.

 

Dear god, the Vikings getting Andrew Luck would be a disaster. Oddly enough, losing the next 2 weeks would be rather beneficial for the Bears.

I just want this whole thing too blow up in the Irsay's face.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/22/co lts-flirting-with-blowing-the-luck-pick/

 

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QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 22, 2011 -> 11:09 PM)
You still may be correct a buddy of mine says it is based on current SOS not at the beginning of the season and IF that is the case IND would still have to win next week then. I just want this whole thing too blow up in the Irsay's face.

The info out there isn't totally updated so it's tough to get a good grasp on this things. It'd definitely be based on end-of-season SOS, that being said I don't really see the Bears winning in week 17 so chances are the Colts are getting that #1 pick.

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How the Colts handle the #1 pick (assuming they don't beat JAX, which isn't a given at this point) is very simple:

 

Pre-draft you tell teams the cost of the #1 pick is their best OT, their best DT, their #1 pick for 2012, and either their #2 pick for 2012 or #1 pick for 2013. See if there might be an idiot owner who would pay that price to upgrade to Luck over, say, Rex Grossman. If not, draft Luck and sit him for a year and see how 2012 goes before deciding how to proceed in the future.

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QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 23, 2011 -> 09:12 AM)
How the Colts handle the #1 pick (assuming they don't beat JAX, which isn't a given at this point) is very simple:

 

Pre-draft you tell teams the cost of the #1 pick is their best OT, their best DT, their #1 pick for 2012, and either their #2 pick for 2012 or #1 pick for 2013. See if there might be an idiot owner who would pay that price to upgrade to Luck over, say, Rex Grossman. If not, draft Luck and sit him for a year and see how 2012 goes before deciding how to proceed in the future.

Depending on who the players coming back are, that's much less value than I'd expect them to get for that pick. The starting price ought to be 3-4 draft picks, where the Colts get the guys without having to take back the contracts.

 

Especially if you want to do the th ing I think is a Mistake, keeping Peyton Manning on the roster and paying him a $28 million bonus in March (read that number again before replying), you can't be taking players back for Luck, just picks.

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Depending on who the players coming back are, that's much less value than I'd expect them to get for that pick. The starting price ought to be 3-4 draft picks, where the Colts get the guys without having to take back the contracts.

 

Especially if you want to do the th ing I think is a Mistake, keeping Peyton Manning on the roster and paying him a $28 million bonus in March (read that number again before replying), you can't be taking players back for Luck, just picks.

 

Keeping Peyton is a win-now move, so players help you a lot more than draft picks, and there are plenty of creative ways to make the salary cap work. It can be done.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2011 -> 08:22 AM)
Depending on who the players coming back are, that's much less value than I'd expect them to get for that pick. The starting price ought to be 3-4 draft picks, where the Colts get the guys without having to take back the contracts.

 

Especially if you want to do the th ing I think is a Mistake, keeping Peyton Manning on the roster and paying him a $28 million bonus in March (read that number again before replying), you can't be taking players back for Luck, just picks.

 

Things get tough when it's the best quarterback in NFL history.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 24, 2011 -> 09:42 AM)
do you guys think this is the worst offense ever trotted out on an nfl field?

QB Josh McCown

RB Bell

WR Hester

WR Bennett? is he playing

TE spaeth

bears oline.

 

Hester is probably not playing. He didnt practice pretty much all week. The WR starters will probably be Roy and Bennett. Bennett I can live with, Roy......

 

 

I actually like Bell, every time he gets an opportunity he gets big chunks of yards. After him it gets a little scary. They just signed ex ND-er Armando Allen from the practice squad to be Bell's backup because Barber is likely out as well.

 

Everything else is just sad

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QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 24, 2011 -> 09:58 AM)
okay...go on?

 

So quickly you forget the Moses Morenos, Jonathan Quinns, Craig Krenzels, and Kordell Stewarts? And oh, btw, Hanie had a worse QB rating in 4 games than all of the previously mentioned QBs

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