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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 07:36 PM)
Of course not, I just think Carimi may be the better player today and in the future. I honestly thought it was strange the Bears moved him to RT.

 

He doesn't have the athletic ability for the left side in the NFL as Webb. He was actually projected as a RT in the future by scouts because of it. Doesn't mean Webb is a better option however, as I think Carimi is the better blocker (though he was further along in development from where Webb was last year).

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Good: Melton, Barber, Carimi, Wright, Okoye, Toeaina, Spencer, Bell, Knox, LB

 

Bad: Louis, Garza, all the CB except Joshua Moore

 

Awful: Webb

 

Obviously, it's WAY early, but the Bears pretty much look exactly the same. They'll be able to run the ball efficiently. They won't be able to keep Cutler off his back when they pass. Defense will bend a lot, but not break. D-Line looked good overall. Really liked what I saw from Melton and Okoye.

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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 14, 2011 -> 04:13 AM)
I've got the game recorded, going to go back and pay attention a little more to the 1st half. One thing I noticed off the top of my head, the Bears are going to use nickel packages a lot.

 

Jigs and Waddel bashing L. Louis

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Things I'm noticing:

 

- Carimi is actually really quick when on the run. Surprising speed, good footwork. Didn't look as good on the 2nd drive. Susceptible to speed rushers on the outside.

- Williams wasn't noticed, which is a good thing. He played great on the 1st drive. 2nd drive too.

- Garza was a mixed bag.

- Webb did fine against anyone not named Merriman. He was mostly bad though.

- Louis was beat or missed an assignment on almost every play. Darreus made him look really bad. Better on the 2nd drive.

 

The draw play they ran in the 2nd quarter that got Barber 11 yards was absolute perfection. Williams made a nice block on the DT then moved to the 2nd level, Webb and Carimi both got their guys on the correct side and sealed them off, Garza/Louis held their men, and Williams made a GREAT block on a LB coming in. Beautiful execution. Barber was untouched until he ran 8 or 9 yards.

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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 10:24 PM)
Things I'm noticing:

 

- Carimi is actually really quick when on the run. Surprising speed, good footwork. Didn't look as good on the 2nd drive. Susceptible to speed rushers on the outside.

 

I think he's gonna be a very good RT in the future. He'll obviously have some rookie mistakes, but I really liked what I saw from him. I know Tice has a hard on for Louis and it was only 1 preseason game (not to mention young), but he was really beyond awful. People were saying Williams was going to be the weak link cause of training camp. I guess that is why you play the games.

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I don't wanna sound like I'm a homer or that I actually agree with Angelo's refusal to bring in any more veteran lineman or his overall bulls*** approach to building OL, but the team didn't get to have any OTAs during the lockout, and 4 out of 5 guys are playing in a new position. It's going to take time for them to start playing cohesively. Last year's group played noticeably better towards the end of the year but before that it was a mess with the musical chairs and s*** they had going on. That was the first real taste of anything this unit had.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 10:36 PM)
I don't wanna sound like I'm a homer or that I actually agree with Angelo's refusal to bring in any more veteran lineman or his overall bulls*** approach to building OL, but the team didn't get to have any OTAs during the lockout, and 4 out of 5 guys are playing in a new position. It's going to take time for them to start playing cohesively. Last year's group played noticeably better towards the end of the year but before that it was a mess with the musical chairs and s*** they had going on. That was the first real taste of anything this unit had.

I actually agree with you here. Which is why you put Spencer at C and move Garza to RG and let them go. I actually think this line will out-perform everyone's expectations as long as they stay healthy and Martz isn't consistently calling 7 step drops. I'm a big fan of Webb, though he looked bad tonight. Williams and Carimi both looked good. Garza was ok, didn't botch any snaps, which is good. And Louis only had like 3 good plays.

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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 11:40 PM)
I actually agree with you here. Which is why you put Spencer at C and move Garza to RG and let them go. I actually think this line will out-perform everyone's expectations as long as they stay healthy and Martz isn't consistently calling 7 step drops. I'm a big fan of Webb, though he looked bad tonight. Williams and Carimi both looked good. Garza was ok, didn't botch any snaps, which is good. And Louis only had like 3 good plays.

Spencer has to learn the playbook first... that's expecting a bit much of him.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 10:45 PM)
Spencer has to learn the playbook first... that's expecting a bit much of him.

That's what practices are for. Have him practice with the 1st team and if he isn't entirely ready, play games with the 2nd team until he's comfortable. He's got a month.

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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 11:52 PM)
That's what practices are for. Have him practice with the 1st team and if he isn't entirely ready, play games with the 2nd team until he's comfortable. He's got a month.

Martz's playbook is a motherf***er, though. I'm just saying. lol.

 

And he's probably going to need to pay extra attention to Green Bay's extremely confusing schemes.

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Last thought: Idonije/Okoye/Adams/Peppers could be an elite d-line with Melton, Paea, Toeaina, and hopefully Wootton cycling through. I really, REALLY like Okoye. And Melton was great pressuring down the middle. Those two have some kind of burst.

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Come on homers. Out of all the NFL preseason games I watched our O-LIne was the worst. Carimi was the best on ur line which is a bad omen. Lance Louis is not an NFL players, nd Garza is a guard. They have a TON of work to do to make this a decent offensive squad.

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