Balta1701 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 08:19 PM) Different year, same bears. Gonna be a long year Considering they went to the conference championship last year, this sounds like a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Going to be interesting to see if the Bears consider flipping Carimi and Webb. Carimi did play LT in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 08:32 PM) Going to be interesting to see if the Bears consider flipping Carimi and Webb. Carimi did play LT in college. They won't do it based on one preseason game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 07:21 PM) Considering they went to the conference championship last year, this sounds like a good thing. An absolute fluke they made it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Of course not, I just think Carimi may be the better player today and in the future. I honestly thought it was strange the Bears moved him to RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 07:36 PM) Of course not, I just think Carimi may be the better player today and in the future. I honestly thought it was strange the Bears moved him to RT. He doesn't have the athletic ability for the left side in the NFL as Webb. He was actually projected as a RT in the future by scouts because of it. Doesn't mean Webb is a better option however, as I think Carimi is the better blocker (though he was further along in development from where Webb was last year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 How many games have you seen Carimi play? Because I dont know how you can say "he doesnt have the athletic ability" without watching him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Oh and welcome to Chicago Barbarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 07:49 PM) Oh and welcome to Chicago Barbarian. i know its just the preseason, but i like how he was running. angry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 10:00 PM) i know its just the preseason, but i like how he was running. angry Was he one of the guys with injury issues the last few years? I didn't follow the cowboys enoguh to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Good: Melton, Barber, Carimi, Wright, Okoye, Toeaina, Spencer, Bell, Knox, LB Bad: Louis, Garza, all the CB except Joshua Moore Awful: Webb Obviously, it's WAY early, but the Bears pretty much look exactly the same. They'll be able to run the ball efficiently. They won't be able to keep Cutler off his back when they pass. Defense will bend a lot, but not break. D-Line looked good overall. Really liked what I saw from Melton and Okoye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I've got the game recorded, going to go back and pay attention a little more to the 1st half. One thing I noticed off the top of my head, the Bears are going to use nickel packages a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Were Okoye's sacks due to positive things he did, or were they flukes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 14, 2011 -> 04:13 AM) I've got the game recorded, going to go back and pay attention a little more to the 1st half. One thing I noticed off the top of my head, the Bears are going to use nickel packages a lot. Jigs and Waddel bashing L. Louis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 10:14 PM) Jigs and Waddel bashing L. Louis Yeah, I heard. I've said all along that Spencer will be starting by week 1 for Louis. Well...at least he should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Things I'm noticing: - Carimi is actually really quick when on the run. Surprising speed, good footwork. Didn't look as good on the 2nd drive. Susceptible to speed rushers on the outside. - Williams wasn't noticed, which is a good thing. He played great on the 1st drive. 2nd drive too. - Garza was a mixed bag. - Webb did fine against anyone not named Merriman. He was mostly bad though. - Louis was beat or missed an assignment on almost every play. Darreus made him look really bad. Better on the 2nd drive. The draw play they ran in the 2nd quarter that got Barber 11 yards was absolute perfection. Williams made a nice block on the DT then moved to the 2nd level, Webb and Carimi both got their guys on the correct side and sealed them off, Garza/Louis held their men, and Williams made a GREAT block on a LB coming in. Beautiful execution. Barber was untouched until he ran 8 or 9 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 10:24 PM) Things I'm noticing: - Carimi is actually really quick when on the run. Surprising speed, good footwork. Didn't look as good on the 2nd drive. Susceptible to speed rushers on the outside. I think he's gonna be a very good RT in the future. He'll obviously have some rookie mistakes, but I really liked what I saw from him. I know Tice has a hard on for Louis and it was only 1 preseason game (not to mention young), but he was really beyond awful. People were saying Williams was going to be the weak link cause of training camp. I guess that is why you play the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I don't wanna sound like I'm a homer or that I actually agree with Angelo's refusal to bring in any more veteran lineman or his overall bulls*** approach to building OL, but the team didn't get to have any OTAs during the lockout, and 4 out of 5 guys are playing in a new position. It's going to take time for them to start playing cohesively. Last year's group played noticeably better towards the end of the year but before that it was a mess with the musical chairs and s*** they had going on. That was the first real taste of anything this unit had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 10:36 PM) I don't wanna sound like I'm a homer or that I actually agree with Angelo's refusal to bring in any more veteran lineman or his overall bulls*** approach to building OL, but the team didn't get to have any OTAs during the lockout, and 4 out of 5 guys are playing in a new position. It's going to take time for them to start playing cohesively. Last year's group played noticeably better towards the end of the year but before that it was a mess with the musical chairs and s*** they had going on. That was the first real taste of anything this unit had. I actually agree with you here. Which is why you put Spencer at C and move Garza to RG and let them go. I actually think this line will out-perform everyone's expectations as long as they stay healthy and Martz isn't consistently calling 7 step drops. I'm a big fan of Webb, though he looked bad tonight. Williams and Carimi both looked good. Garza was ok, didn't botch any snaps, which is good. And Louis only had like 3 good plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 11:40 PM) I actually agree with you here. Which is why you put Spencer at C and move Garza to RG and let them go. I actually think this line will out-perform everyone's expectations as long as they stay healthy and Martz isn't consistently calling 7 step drops. I'm a big fan of Webb, though he looked bad tonight. Williams and Carimi both looked good. Garza was ok, didn't botch any snaps, which is good. And Louis only had like 3 good plays. Spencer has to learn the playbook first... that's expecting a bit much of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 10:45 PM) Spencer has to learn the playbook first... that's expecting a bit much of him. That's what practices are for. Have him practice with the 1st team and if he isn't entirely ready, play games with the 2nd team until he's comfortable. He's got a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 13, 2011 -> 11:52 PM) That's what practices are for. Have him practice with the 1st team and if he isn't entirely ready, play games with the 2nd team until he's comfortable. He's got a month. Martz's playbook is a motherf***er, though. I'm just saying. lol. And he's probably going to need to pay extra attention to Green Bay's extremely confusing schemes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Last thought: Idonije/Okoye/Adams/Peppers could be an elite d-line with Melton, Paea, Toeaina, and hopefully Wootton cycling through. I really, REALLY like Okoye. And Melton was great pressuring down the middle. Those two have some kind of burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Come on homers. Out of all the NFL preseason games I watched our O-LIne was the worst. Carimi was the best on ur line which is a bad omen. Lance Louis is not an NFL players, nd Garza is a guard. They have a TON of work to do to make this a decent offensive squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Cowboys and Rams won. I'm happy so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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