knightni Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 09:33 AM) Well said. JPosnanski Joe Posnanski by ChrisRongey Heard Jaworski swear on air. How in world of Cialis commercials, movie trailers featuring dismemberment can this still matter? Anyone who believes that pro sports games are TV-G or TV-PG is fooling themselves. There are cable TV-14 shows showing butts and saying the word "s***" regularly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Looks like the Patriots knew something was going on. http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/09/13/man...rs-meriweather/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 09:21 AM) Looks like the Patriots knew something was going on. http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/09/13/man...rs-meriweather/ i would like to know some more details about this. meriweather didnt commit the crime, so i dont know why the patriots would get spooked off by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 10:59 AM) i would like to know some more details about this. meriweather didnt commit the crime, so i dont know why the patriots would get spooked off by it. Hopefully he wasn't an accessory or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 http://www.suntimes.com/sports/7625515-417...ccordingly.html Despite a mutual desire, the Bears and Matt Forte ultimately couldn’t agree to terms on a contract extension because of differing opinions on what the running back is worth. Where exactly does Forte fit between the contracts of Kansas City’s Jamaal Charles (six years, $10 million in guarantees) and Minnesota’s Adrian Peterson (seven years, $36 million in guarantees)? But count Hall of Fame running back Marshall Faulk as the biggest proponent of the “Pay Forte” movement that started on Twitter. “I’m not taking shots at the Bears, but I hope they aren’t waiting for him to have a bad season because the market has been set on that position,” Faulk, now an NFL Network analyst, told the Sun-Times on Monday. “The market is set, and you have to pay him. He’s one of the better backs in our league, and he’s definitely deserving of it. “They love paying defense, but there aren’t many Matt Fortes. I warn the Chicago Bears: If you think you can just find another guy to play in this offense, then this could end up being trouble for you because it’s not easy.” There’s no better authority on what it takes to play running back in a Mike Martz offense than Faulk, the linchpin of “The Greatest Show on Turf.” He perplexed opposing defenses, given his well-rounded skill set and his equal talent as a runner and receiver. That’s why Faulk empathizes with Forte. “The problem with our league is, they like paying by the position,” Faulk said, “and whenever a football player is up for a contract, they can’t quantify what he’s worth. “When they ask [Forte] to run outside, he’s in the game. Inside, in the game. Block, in the game. Line up as a receiver? In the game. Run routes out of the backfield? In the game. That’s a football player.” Defining a great RB One of Faulk’s pet peeves is when the topic of greatest running backs in NFL history comes up. “When you talk about the great backs, they say Emmitt [smith] and Barry [sanders], and they say Jim Brown and Walter Payton,” Faulk said. “But they never look at complete as great. But there’s no greater than being complete.” So while he may be 10th in total rushing yards, Faulk believes the fact that he’s third in total yards from scrimmage shouldn’t be discounted. “He’s never going to be a 25-30 carry guy,” Faulk said of Forte’s role in Martz’s offense. “He’ll never be a 2,000-yard rusher. But he’ll always be around 1,800 to 2,100 total yards.” But the greatest compliment Faulk could pay Forte is that the Bears running back never has to come off the field. “In my eyes, he and Ray Rice are the only ones doing that right now, without sharing the load,” Faulk said. “Those two guys might be the only two guys where their coach might call a timeout if it’s a crucial play and he’s tired. “Let’s not get caught up in the rush yards. The Bears better understand what he is to what they do and who they are.” So while Peterson and Tennessee’s Chris Johnson might be considered greater, classic running backs, Faulk insisted that Forte is adept at the myriad of skills necessary to thrive under the demanding Martz, from lining up as a receiver or tight end to picking up blitzes. “That’s the part that gets overlooked — all the nuances that you have to know about the adjustments and protections,” Faulk said. “When an offensive lineman goofs up, we have to fix it. The running backs make the adjustments in the protection issues. And it’s so hard.” Making a decision In the final year of his four-year, $3.7 million contract, Forte is making $600,000 this season, the minimum for a player of his experience. Bears general manager Jerry Angelo hasn’t ruled out the possibility of re-opening contract talks with Forte during the season, but the club can retain him through 2012 by placing the franchise tag on him and paying him what is projected to be about $10 million. But Faulk said the Bears would be wise to lock Forte up, pointing to plays such as the running back’s 56-yard touchdown catch off a screen pass against Atlanta on Sunday. “What he makes look easy — and what I made look easy — you just don’t find that anymore,” Faulk said. “Some teams go out and get three backs and ask them to do the job of one man. If that’s what they want to do, then they should do that. But if you want him to play every down, they need to pay him for that. “He’s one of the few left in the league that plays every down. That’s not even heard of in our league now, an every-down back,” Faulk jokingly said. “What the hell is that?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It's no secret that Forte should be paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 10:49 AM) It's no secret that Forte should be paid. Actually, it's mentioned in chapter 4 of "The Secret". Not sure what that means though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 08:52 AM) Anyone who believes that pro sports games are TV-G or TV-PG is fooling themselves. There are cable TV-14 shows showing butts and saying the word "s***" regularly now. TECHNICALLY I think you can say/do anything you want on cable TV. The cable networks are not held to the same safe harbor standards as broadcast (via the FCC). It's common practice to have the same standards, but I think you can do whatever you want at your own rick of losing viewers. Edited September 13, 2011 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 10:22 AM) Hopefully he wasn't an accessory or something. Yah, I . . . really hope he wasn't involved. That's not cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 08:32 AM) So much for the new rules ruining the KO return game, I guess. This was also Urlacher's first game in which he recorded an INT, a fumble recovery and a TD How many touchbacks were there compared to last year that is the question. The new rules did not impact punts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 11:26 AM) Yah, I . . . really hope he wasn't involved. That's not cool. Yes. Rape is not cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 09:22 AM) Apparently Jaworski apologized later in the game for it. He apologized for offending people with inappropriate language, or something like that. I was sooo not offended. Apology not necessary. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 11:49 AM) It's no secret that Forte should be paid. If I was the GM of the Bears I would up the offer to $18 million guaranteed (this is a lot of money relative to most other running backs), but no more than that. Any more and his cap number starts to make you wince, and the Bears have several guys on one-year deals and have other expiring contracts e.g. Chris Harris. And he, quite frankly, hasn't performed at the level of those guys to date... I think this is the year he will finally make a Pro Bowl, but still, he's not Chris Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It would be a disaster for the Bears to let Matt Forte walk in free agency. I'm not gonna spend much time thinking about it while theyre playing football, but he has to be priority #1 in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 06:31 PM) If I was the GM of the Bears I would up the offer to $18 million guaranteed (this is a lot of money relative to most other running backs), but no more than that. Any more and his cap number starts to make you wince, and the Bears have several guys on one-year deals and have other expiring contracts e.g. Chris Harris. And he, quite frankly, hasn't performed at the level of those guys to date... I think this is the year he will finally make a Pro Bowl, but still, he's not Chris Johnson. I think that the amount they offered him was fair for when they offered him. If he wants to push a $20 mil guarantee he needs to get towards the end of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 06:34 PM) It would be a disaster for the Bears to let Matt Forte walk in free agency. I'm not gonna spend much time thinking about it while theyre playing football, but he has to be priority #1 in the offseason. The RB franchise tag is ~$10 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 06:35 PM) I think that the amount they offered him was fair for when they offered him. If he wants to push a $20 mil guarantee he needs to get towards the end of this season. Right... that's just not his market value right now. Another year of 2010 and it will be. $20 mil guaranteed for a running back is a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 http://www.csnchicago.com/09/14/11/Urlache...tm_medium=email According to a report in the Chicago Tribune, Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher was rushed out of town Tuesday night to attend to a family emergency in Arizona. Specifics are not yet know, but it is believed to involve Urlacher's mother. Urlacher is expected to be away from the team for several days and his status for Sunday's game against the New Orleans Saints is unclear at this time. His teammates, Bears coaches and front office members are aware of the situation. Urlacher had 10 tackles, an interception and a fumble recovery for a touchdown in the Bears' Week 1 win over the Atlanta Falcons. His mother, Lavoyda, raised Brian and his younger brother Casey and older sister Sheri in Lovington, N.M. The family has remained close and Lavoyda maintains a strong presence in Urlacher's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) If something happens and he can't make it back, Saints (-7) will start looking like a great bet. Wish him all the best. Edited September 14, 2011 by LittleHurt05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 08:22 AM) If something happens and he can't make it back, Saints (-7) will start looking like a great bet. Wish him all the best. If he is out, the line won't stay there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 11:44 AM) How many touchbacks were there compared to last year that is the question. The new rules did not impact punts. ESPNStatsInfo ESPN Stats & Info 39% of kickoffs reached end zone in 2010 Week 1; 87% this past weekend. Avg starting yard line in 2010: 26.8... In 2011: 22.6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 08:42 AM) ESPNStatsInfo ESPN Stats & Info 39% of kickoffs reached end zone in 2010 Week 1; 87% this past weekend. Avg starting yard line in 2010: 26.8... In 2011: 22.6. its amazing how much of a difference 5 little yards makes. Janikowski looked like an Arena league kicker hitting the back net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 10:06 AM) its amazing how much of a difference 5 little yards makes. 4.2 yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 08:21 AM) http://www.csnchicago.com/09/14/11/Urlache...tm_medium=email Apparently Brian's mom has died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 @ZachZaidman Brian Urlacher's mother has passed away Brian Urlacher: "My first priority right now is to be with my family as we mourn her loss and make the arrangements to lay her to rest." Brian Urlacher: "This is a very difficult and emotional time for us and I sincerely ask that you respect our privacy. Thank you." Brian Urlacher: "My mother, Lavoyda, unexpectedly passed away Monday at her home in Texas." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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