knightni Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 05:49 PM) You said Quinn >> Tebow and used 50% completion rate as a reason Tebow sucks. He pointed out Quinn has the same but not nearly as athletic as Tebow, I think that pretty much hits the nail on the head. Both of them might suck but Tebow deserves a shot at least imo, the team isn't going to playoffs or even be competitive whats the point in starting Orton. When I posted ">>", I meant he's better because he's a passing style QB that fits the NFL game. Tebow is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espy.Teahen Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 03:51 PM) When I posted ">>", I meant he's better because he's a passing style QB that fits the NFL game. Tebow is not. So under that Logic Henry Burris >>> Tebow, Jonathan Quinn (possible relation to Brady) >>> Tebow heck, even Todd Helton >>> Tebow really? BTW, I like the part where you went from ">>>" to ">>" Edited September 17, 2011 by Espy.Teahen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Why do people act like Tebow was awful when he got to play last season? There are a lot worse options out there than Tim Tebow.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (Papa Tru @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 05:22 AM) Why do people act like Tebow was awful when he got to play last season? There are a lot worse options out there than Tim Tebow.. Yeah, I'd gladly take Tebow as our 3rd stringer with certain packages having him behind center. Hell, he's a better goal-line runner than Forte is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 11:23 PM) Yeah, I'd gladly take Tebow as our 3rd stringer with certain packages having him behind center. Hell, he's a better goal-line runner than Forte is. He deserves a chance to start.. He was a rookie that still hasn't been coached up enough for the NFL game and still put up respectable rookie numbers.. He wasn't turning the ball over, he needs time to adjust but I still don't see any reason why he shouldn't be given a fair shot and being an NFL quarterback.. I thought he would fall flat on his face, but his short time at the end of last season made me change my mind about him.. The dude is just a winner, a leader, and works as hard or harder than the hardest workers in the game.. he has a LOT of qualities that people look for in a QB, he just needs the opportunity.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (Papa Tru @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 11:22 PM) Why do people act like Tebow was awful when he got to play last season? There are a lot worse options out there than Tim Tebow.. Yeah, like Todd f***in' Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 04:51 PM) When I posted ">>", I meant he's better because he's a passing style QB that fits the NFL game. Tebow is not. Rookie season 67.2 QB rating for Quinn 82.1 for Tebow. Thats all we have to compare at the same points in their career's. Brady Quinn is not a good NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 01:36 AM) Rookie season 67.2 QB rating for Quinn 82.1 for Tebow. Thats all we have to compare at the same points in their career's. Brady Quinn is not a good NFL QB. Man, rookie season QB ratings? 71.2 for Peyton Manning in his rookie season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 12:36 AM) Rookie season 67.2 QB rating for Quinn 82.1 for Tebow. Thats all we have to compare at the same points in their career's. Brady Quinn is not a good NFL QB. How about having a roster full of coaches analyze their play, and having them name Quinn the back-up? I think that counts for something. I have a new thought: I don't think either one of them are starting quality qbs in the NFL, so this argument is moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 17, 2011 Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 12:36 AM) Rookie season 67.2 QB rating for Quinn 82.1 for Tebow. Thats all we have to compare at the same points in their career's. Brady Quinn is not a good NFL QB. To be fair, Quinn played on a completely different team, and different system than Tebow. Its a system that has made Kyle Orton look good. Stop and think about that for a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 05:49 PM) To be fair, Quinn played on a completely different team, and different system than Tebow. Its a system that has made Kyle Orton look good. Stop and think about that for a minute. Kyle orton is not a bad QB, come on man. He was good enough in Chicago that people were clamoring for him constantly and he won a lot fo games there. Orton is good enough that 2-3 teams were interested in trading for him as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 05:53 PM) Kyle orton is not a bad QB, come on man. He was good enough in Chicago that people were clamoring for him constantly and he won a lot fo games there. Orton is good enough that 2-3 teams were interested in trading for him as a starter. Is this sarcasm? The only reason anyone liked him in Chicago was because Grossman was the other option, even than the fanbase was split down the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 06:57 PM) Is this sarcasm? The only reason anyone liked him in Chicago was because Grossman was the other option, even than the fanbase was split down the middle. Kyle Orton went what, 10-3 in a mediocre offense as a rookie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 06:00 PM) Kyle Orton went what, 10-3 in a mediocre offense as a rookie? How is it the majority of people here won't give pitchers credit purely on Win/Loss but you try to use that argument for a QB who has less impact than a SP on a single game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 06:00 PM) Kyle Orton went what, 10-3 in a mediocre offense as a rookie? They pretty much won despite him. But Orton really did develop into a decent QB in 08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 07:04 PM) They pretty much won despite him. But Orton really did develop into a decent QB in 08. All I'm saying...calling Orton a bad QB is unfair. Dude's acceptable. He's not carrying you to a super bowl, but a number of teams would get better if they acquired him and used him as their starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 17, 2011 Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 06:18 PM) All I'm saying...calling Orton a bad QB is unfair. Dude's acceptable. He's not carrying you to a super bowl, but a number of teams would get better if they acquired him and used him as their starter. None of them would actually be good teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Miami's fans wanted him. Of course that was before Henne threw for 400yds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 07:19 PM) None of them would actually be good teams. Very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 06:36 PM) Miami's fans wanted him. Of course that was before Henne threw for 400yds. Thats not true, the casual fan wanted him.. we ripped it on finheaven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 06:19 PM) None of them would actually be good teams. I'd take Orton over Sanchez with the Jets. I think that team could win a Super Bowl with Orton under center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Bears +7 Steelers -14 Eagles -2.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocking Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Class move. J Peppers rents a private jet for Bears D to attend funeral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 QUOTE (Stocking @ Sep 18, 2011 -> 01:01 AM) Class move. J Peppers rents a private jet for Bears D to attend funeral. Since Peppers has been here, he's been nothing but class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Pretty f'ing excited for this Bears game tomorrow. Not sure how the defense will play considering the circumstances, but if we can get a performance out of our offense similar to last week, which shouldn't be difficult, considering the Saints won't be able to get a ton of pressure on Jay without Will Smith (yes, I know they will bring the blitzes), we should be in the driver's seat for this one. Love the moneyline value at +260 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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