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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 07:00 PM)
Kyle Orton went what, 10-3 in a mediocre offense as a rookie?

Dude, stop it, the offense was mediocre because of him. Granted he was a rookie but still, he only gets credit when graded on a huge curve. He had a 59.7 QB rating, a completion barely over 50%, and the only reason he didn't have more than 13 interceptions is because his passes were so poorly thrown even the DBs couldn't get to them. His stats looked very much like Brady Quinn's in 2009... in fact Quinn's were probably better. Tebow's for about 2 1/2 (completely meaningless) games definitely were.

 

Orton is a decent QB, yes, but if people are going to bury Quinn because of his rookie season they should take a look at Orton's stats in 2005. They were terrible.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 18, 2011 -> 04:00 AM)
Pretty f'ing excited for this Bears game tomorrow. Not sure how the defense will play considering the circumstances, but if we can get a performance out of our offense similar to last week, which shouldn't be difficult, considering the Saints won't be able to get a ton of pressure on Jay without Will Smith (yes, I know they will bring the blitzes), we should be in the driver's seat for this one.

 

Love the moneyline value at +260

Bears are dogs for some reason and they're a great bet to take this week.

 

As far as defense goes, people bring up the Saints hanging up a lot on the Packers but the Bears and Packers play a totally different style of D. Packers have a very aggressive blitzing defense that's vulnerable to risk-taking. Bears play a simple, conservative defense, and keep everything in front of them and don't blitz much. Saints have issues on their O-line, too, so the Bears probably won't.

 

Gregg Williams is also really aggressive but so is Martz and that actually plays to the Bears' strengths IMO. If you see the Saints go from man to zone at any point in the game, the Bears probably have the game sewn up.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 18, 2011 -> 12:58 PM)
Cutler looks banged up. He seems a step slow today.

 

He just had his head driven into the ground. I don't blame him. It was just one throw. The WR aren't getting any separation at all today. He has nowhere to go with the ball.

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