Balta1701 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 In New Orleans, the final score of the Saints' 30-13 victory over Chicago came on a Darren Sproles 12-yard touchdown catch. He ran down the right sideline and appeared to step out of bounds at the two-yard line with his right foot. Watching the game in the NBC viewing room, we waited and waited ... and no call from replay official Bill Spyskma to ref Walt Coleman. The Saints kicked the extra point, and the insurance touchdown counted, bizarrely. Now, it could be that Coleman wouldn't have found indisputable visual evidence that Sproles' foot was on the white boundary -- though I don't see how -- but Coleman never got the chance. After the game, I heard Spyskma actually tried to signal down to the field, but the communications system failed. Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writ...l#ixzz1YPQcesS8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 10:34 AM) Well to be fair Forte was the target of close to 50% of the passes, since dumping it off to the HB over the middle for 5-10 yards was the only thing open or quick enough before Jay got killed. There's a big difference in how the O and D lines perform between a run call and a pass call though. If everything is passes, then the O Line is always moving backwards and the D line never has to think about anything other than getting after the QB as quick as possible. On a run, the O-line is moving forwards or side to side, and the D Line can't just go after the QB, they have to keep gaps from opening between them. That's why something of a mix is so important, especially for an O-line with 2/5 of its starters out and a blitzing defense opposite it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Yeah, this every score is reviewed thing is kinda bulls*** since it's not happening. However, they would have wound up scoring anyway and the Bears just would have had less time to run Jay out there to get killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 09:37 AM) There's a big difference in how the O and D lines perform between a run call and a pass call though. If everything is passes, then the O Line is always moving backwards and the D line never has to think about anything other than getting after the QB as quick as possible. On a run, the O-line is moving forwards or side to side, and the D Line can't just go after the QB, they have to keep gaps from opening between them. Oh I know, that was really just another way to insult how bad the offense, and the WR/OL group in particular, was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 10:38 AM) Yeah, this every score is reviewed thing is kinda bulls*** since it's not happening. However, they would have wound up scoring anyway and the Bears just would have had less time to run Jay out there to get killed. I don't mind that every score gets reviewed...that actually kinda makes sense...but that makes at least 2 that should have gone under the booth where the signal didn't come down fast enough or didn't come down at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 09:38 AM) Yeah, this every score is reviewed thing is kinda bulls*** since it's not happening. However, they would have wound up scoring anyway and the Bears just would have had less time to run Jay out there to get killed. that was pretty ridiculous, half of his foot was over the line. They may have been held to a FG, but it wouldn't have mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 It's week 2 and this has already been the season from hell. Berry - out for the year (ACL) Moeaki - out for the year (ACL) Charles - out for the year (ACL) Siler - out for year Hali - left game with some injury Cassell - played like horsehit Baldwin - yet to play a down I was so excited for the season and it's been just awful all around. At this point I think I'd rather just have the Chiefs lose out so we can start over next year with Andrew Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 09:39 AM) I don't mind that every score gets reviewed...that actually kinda makes sense...but that makes at least 2 that should have gone under the booth where the signal didn't come down fast enough or didn't come down at all. That was the entire point of my post. Thank you for re-typing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 18, 2011 -> 04:28 PM) Kansas City is just horrible. Jaamal Charles is probably done for a while. How the hell did they make the playoffs last year? They had an easy schedule, they didn't turn the ball over and they really weren't that horrible. Very young team took advantage of every break they got. They are in for a brutal season now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 10:47 AM) That was the entire point of my post. Thank you for re-typing it. I'm not sure that calling it Bull**** is tantamount to what I wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 09:49 AM) I'm not sure that calling it Bull**** is tantamount to what I wrote. "bulls*** since it's not happening" was pretty tantamount to what you wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Im fine with the Bears throwing a lot when most of those throws were check downs to Forte. And someone mentioned San Diego, a big part of SD's ability is because Rivers calls out protections and knows how to move his line. Cutler barely does this and he doesnt have a line that can make the calls themselves. They really need to work on preread protection, because some of those plays they were just letting defensive players go free, while they were double teaming inside. Clearly some one messed up. But 1-1 after ATL and NO isnt bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 08:27 AM) The Bears have had an awful O-Line and receiving corps for the last many years. I have no idea why they refuse to improve in either areas. Good old 'Raspy' Joe Buck had quite the damning stat yesterday... the Bears' last 1,000 yard receiver was Marty Booker... in 2002. Devin Hester was thrown to 15 times and had one catch. What value does he bring to the Bears now that kickoffs arent as important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 11:06 AM) Devin Hester was thrown to 15 times and had one catch. What value does he bring to the Bears now that kickoffs arent as important? Devin Hester is a waste of money with the change in kickoff returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 10:53 AM) But 1-1 after ATL and NO isnt bad. I said I'd be ok with 1-2 after the first three weeks, given the stacked opponents. However, after how good they looked in week 1, I got excited. We're still on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 The problem is that Devin Hester is never going to be a X receiver, and if you want him to be effective it has to be like Az Hakim in Martz offense, not Holt or Bruce. What makes no sense is that the Saints defense was semi-predictable (blitz or not) and yet the Bears make very little change at the line. Im pretty sure thats a Martz thing, I dont think he likes audibles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 The problem was that Martz was leaving 6 or 7 people in to block, but they just kept blowing their assignments or getting beat off the snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 11:15 AM) The problem is that Devin Hester is never going to be a X receiver, and if you want him to be effective it has to be like Az Hakim in Martz offense, not Holt or Bruce. What makes no sense is that the Saints defense was semi-predictable (blitz or not) and yet the Bears make very little change at the line. Im pretty sure thats a Martz thing, I dont think he likes audibles. The fact that he runs terrible routes and doesnt have very good hands is the other part of the problem with him at receiver. He's one of the best if not the best KR and PR in history, but thats where his effectiveness ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Omiyale entered the game and they just pinned their ears back and came at Cutler. They knew that Webb was already getting beat like a drum on the other side, once Carimi went out the Bears couldnt stop the blitzes at all and Cutler couldnt do anything but attempt a quick slant up the middle, and even that he couldnt do because his best slant reciever was out(Bennett) just a recipe for a disaster, and that disaster was realized Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 11:21 AM) Omiyale entered the game and they just pinned their ears back and came at Cutler. They knew that Webb was already getting beat like a drum on the other side, once Carimi went out the Bears couldnt stop the blitzes at all and Cutler couldnt do anything but attempt a quick slant up the middle, and even that he couldnt do because his best slant reciever was out(Bennett) just a recipe for a disaster, and that disaster was realized Yeah, injuries, plus a really bad day for Webb, and the Bears didn't have a chance. Hopefully Carimi is OK, otherwise next week will be UGLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Kellen Davis was also responsible for some missed blocks that ended up costing Cutler bigtime. That sack/fumble specifically. He just let the guy go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 espnchijon jon greenberg Things you find out watching NFL.com rewind, Bears burned second timeout (in second seriess) because Chris Williams' shoe was untied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Before Carimi went out I was actually wondering if the staff had given thought to swapping he and Webb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 11:57 AM) espnchijon jon greenberg Things you find out watching NFL.com rewind, Bears burned second timeout (in second seriess) because Chris Williams' shoe was untied. they mentioned that during the broadcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Chris Harris is really important to the Bears defense, I think we really learned that Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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