BigSqwert Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 F-U-C-K JETS! JETS! JETS! Raiders baby!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 09:51 PM) i really dont think they will as bad as you think. martz had to abandon the run, it just wasnt there. ripping martz for the pass/run diff is kind of stupid The Bears would have looked much better if not for 3-4 dropped passes, two pass interferences that were not called, and a punt return that was called back on a "hold" that occurred when the Bears and Packers werent even touching each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 11:25 PM) That holding penalty was pretty fishy. More than fishy. i watched that play 5 times, no Bears were touching the Packers when the "hold" occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 06:31 PM) Where the hell was the hold? Completely impacted the wagering there. I confess, i first thought... NBA refs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 06:59 AM) More than fishy. i watched that play 5 times, no Bears were touching the Packers when the "hold" occurred. Apparently it was the jam on the gunner and it occured right away. I haven't seen the replay enough but I've heard that you can only see it in a real time replay but supposedly it did occur. Real cool play though, too bad it was wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 08:06 AM) Apparently it was the jam on the gunner and it occured right away. I haven't seen the replay enough but I've heard that you can only see it in a real time replay but supposedly it did occur. Real cool play though, too bad it was wasted. It was indeed there on the real-time replay, ah the beauty of DVR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 10:57 PM) Being a non-Bears, non-Packers fan, I don't think you can blame Martz either. The run simply wasn't there. They were getting stuffed. The pass was there. Cutler made some mistakes, the O-Line made some pass blocking mistakes and the WR's made mistakes. Fact of the matter is, this is a game that falls on Jerry Angelo. You didn't address the OL, CB position or WR position when you had the money to. In fact, you lied to Bears fans and said the dumbest thing I've ever heard a GM say with that much money under the cap and with as big and glaring holes as the Bears, "Who else is out there that's better?" Hell, I'm better. Anyone you would've picked up is better. By simply picking up Carimi and calling it a day on the O-Line, by simply picking up Roy and calling it a day for the WR and not even bothering to improve the CB position just baffles me. But I'm sure he'll get another DLineman soon. If you want a coaching staff to blame for this one...I think you look at the preparation. Cutler came into the game...off. He had time to throw but he was totally out of sync. His INT's came on poor throws. His WR's weren't where he expected him to be. And when he hit one or two in the hands they'd drop it. Similarly, the Packers came out and really outdid that defense which performed better against them 3 times last year. They had some big running lanes early and they weren't forcing turnovers until they were desperate. Rogers didn't really take the beating you need to deliver to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 08:06 AM) Apparently it was the jam on the gunner and it occured right away. I haven't seen the replay enough but I've heard that you can only see it in a real time replay but supposedly it did occur. Real cool play though, too bad it was wasted. I only watched the endzone angle and of course I deleted it off my DVR already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 03:14 PM) Holy crap. How many close games can there be? I've got the NFL Sunday Ticket and trying to choose which final minute to watch is about to make my head explode. Yeah, that's why RedZone channel wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 08:54 PM) the optimist in me says 1-2 isnt a death sentence, and it can be overcome. but this has to be the bottom, they have to take the next step. The pessimist in me sees this as what the bears are. I said 1-2 after the 1st three would be fine. Sadly, when the Bears win the 1st one, we get carried away. Obviously, just like last year, they are going to reign Martz in and run an offense more suited for the awful receiving corps. It drives me nuts that we get Martz instead of our best receiver, Greg Olsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 07:57 AM) The Bears would have looked much better if not for 3-4 dropped passes, two pass interferences that were not called, and a punt return that was called back on a "hold" that occurred when the Bears and Packers werent even touching each other. I will say, despite the fact that the Bears lost fair-and-square, that the no-call on the Hester pass interference was a crock of s*** and completely obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 09:19 AM) I will say, despite the fact that the Bears lost fair-and-square, that the no-call on the Hester pass interference was a crock of s*** and completely obvious. the one where Hester ran directly into the CB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 09:20 AM) the one where Hester ran directly into the CB? No, the one where the CB got turned around and tripped up Hester preventing a TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I find the fact that Jay Cutler can not move out of the pocket very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 09:20 AM) the one where Hester ran directly into the CB? Slice it how you want, the play was pass interference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Colts owner doesn't expect Manning back this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 09:45 AM) Slice it how you want, the play was pass interference. I honestly don't know the rules well enough to make that call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I understand that the Bears run game wasnt going well, but how does Martz defend not getting Forte more involved? Just because they cant run the ball doesnt mean he cant call a screen pass or throw to Forte in the flat etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 09:58 AM) I honestly don't know the rules well enough to make that call. I'm guessing it was a no call because it was an accident http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/passinterference Actions that do not constitute pass interference include but are not limited to: (b) Inadvertent tangling of feet when both players are playing the ball or neither player is playing the ball. Dude tripped and fell, and then took down Hester with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 10:53 AM) I'm guessing it was a no call because it was an accident http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/passinterference Dude tripped and fell, and then took down Hester with him. I think that's only true if both are looking for ball and get tangled up, Woodson had no idea where it was and wasn't tangled feet he pretty much tripped him on purpose or not even announcers were pretty open about it being pass interference. Otherwise a corner could always just trip in front of receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 11:15 PM) I don't want to hear s*** about the run-pass ratio. What do you want to do that for? So you can take another 6 attempts to have 20 rushing yards total on the game? The Packers' secondary is brutal anyways, with the exception of Woodson. If you keep trying to pound the ball you were going to get stuffed anyways. If you take a look around the League, the premier offenses could give a s*** about handing the ball off the the running back anymore. The Packers didn't hardly bother to run all year last season. The Patriots are content to throw 20 straight times. The difference is, if you can't or won't run the ball, you need to throw a lot of high-percentage short passing plays to receivers capable of YAC. Slants, screens, quick outs, etc. Otherwise, your QB is going to get hammered because of the DLine knowing you are throwing almost every down. Unfortunately, Knox and Hester are either in the wrong place or don't have the hands in order to make this sort of offense work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 12:11 PM) I think that's only true if both are looking for ball and get tangled up, Woodson had no idea where it was and wasn't tangled feet he pretty much tripped him on purpose or not even announcers were pretty open about it being pass interference. Otherwise a corner could always just trip in front of receivers. Woodson had his back turned to the play and impeded the progress of Hester towards the ball. Problem is, the throw went towards the middle of the field, and the refs probably just figured it was uncatchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 08:25 AM) It was indeed there on the real-time replay, ah the beauty of DVR. 0:35 second mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 01:18 PM) Unfortunately, Knox and Hester are either in the wrong place or don't have the hands in order to make this sort of offense work. And Cutler can't put the ball on their hands reliably enough, especially on tough routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 There was also a PI on Knox late in the game too. It was pretty obvious that the refs werent going to let the Bears come back in that game, at least not close enough so they wouldnt cover. Super sketchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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