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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 10:16 PM)
I keep listening for the radical leftist creating socialism in america and i keep hearing "if you work hard you can succeed, businesses are creating jobs!"

He did really well tonight I think. I'm sure he's going to get shredded by some but it sets the tone for this fall.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 10:20 PM)
There were some awkward lines and some bad ideas, but it works really well aa campaign launching point.

I lean right so from my perspective I came in skeptical I guess. We both know we can take this with a relative grain of salt since its election time.

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Definitely a more fiery speech than we've seen from Obama since before he was elected. More direct, more policy directives, more energy. Some of the ideas are good, some are bad, but he is definitely making his case loudly for 2012, and overall it was pretty good. The spilled milk joke was awful, seriously, whoever wrote that should be fired immediately.

 

One more thing... WTF was Mitch Daniels talking about when he said "half of people under 30 didn't go to work today". Well, yeah, all those people less than 15 years old likely don't have jobs. Duh. If he meant working age (over 18), even if you include college students, that number is still 100% not believable. And man do that dude's facial expressions creep me out, he's like an android. I was kind of surprised though that a guy who is supposedly a GOP object of desire for higher office, endorsing means testing for Medicare and Social Security.

 

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Politifact, in their endless effort to be non-partisan, rated this statement by Obama as "half true":

 

“In the last 22 months, businesses have created more than three million jobs. Last year, they created the most jobs since 2005.”

 

The problem is that it is entirely true. They rated it as untrue simply because it was a positive political narrative for Obama.

 

In his remarks, Obama described the damage to the economy, including losing millions of jobs “before our policies were in full effect.” Then he describe [sic!] the subsequent job increases, essentially taking credit for the job growth. But labor economists tell us that no mayor or governor or president deserves all the claim or all the credit for changes in employment.

 

Between this and their "lie of the year" actually being a "true statement, though maybe a little polemic," I'm not sure how they maintain any credibility.

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