Boogua Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 03:56 PM) This was never going to be close. You have a team that looks incredibly poorly coached that also has no talent. Thanks Ron Guenther for not firing Zook when you should have in 2009. I know it wasn't going to be close. I posted on the last page how tOSU looked like an easy play at -27.5. Beckman just looks like a terrible coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Also, it is laughable how little depth we have on defense. Zook's recruiting was as bad as any team in the country between 2010 and 2012. With Brown's injury we are now playing 2 true freshmen at LB (both recruited by Beckman) one of whom has no business being on the field, we have no talent on the defensive line other than the 3 SRs who have all underachieved this year, every safety in the program is terrible and we are forced to play freshmen in the nickel and dime packages because Zook didn't recruit a good CB after the 2009 class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 QUOTE (Boogua @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 04:02 PM) I know it wasn't going to be close. I posted on the last page how tOSU looked like an easy play at -27.5. Beckman just looks like a terrible coach. He does look brutal but the talent level is also a major problem. We are without a doubt the least talented offense in the Big 10 and our talent on defense after the top few guys is dreadful. I thought the top 4 or 5 guys on the defense would be enough to make us solid on that end but it just hasn't happened. Our pass rush really misses Mercilus because the other guys haven't stepped up and his replacement Justin Staples is a terrible football player. We also replaced Tavon Wilson who was our best DB with a true freshman and replaced Ian Thomas with a true freshman. Then you throw in that Brown has been banged up this year which leads to Svetina playing (who has no business being in a Big 10 game) along with our terrible safeties and you have major talent deficiencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 (edited) You can keep blaming Zook's last few recruiting classes for how bad this team is, but no one is buying it. There is still a little talent on this team. NFL talent, even. In the very least, we can all agree they should at least be competitive against the worst Big Ten just about ever. At least competitive enough for one half. They aren't. Just awful. We now have to fight to avoid what Indiana is/was. Edited November 3, 2012 by Buehrle>Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 04:22 PM) You can keep blaming Zook's last few recruiting classes for how bad this team is, but no one is buying it. There is still a little talent on this team. NFL talent, even. In the very least, we can all agree they should at least be competitive against the worst Big Ten just about ever. At least competitive enough for one half. They aren't. Just awful. We now have to fight to avoid what Indiana is/was. I've said many times that Beckman looks terrible but there isn't talent on this team, at least on offense. We couldn't score last year and we lost our only good offensive linemen and our only legitimate skill position player and replaced them with bad players. On defense we lost the guy who was by far the best player on defense and our best defensive back and replaced them with Staples who is terrible and a true freshman. Buchanan, Spence, Brown and Hawthorne are guys with some NFL ability but Brown has been banged up this year and when he isn't on the field we are playing two true freshmen at LB. The safety play is terrible, Staples is terrible and Williams and Green are just guys. The coaching on the defensive side of the ball has been awful but there isn't a coach in the country who can get that offense to score points. And frankly, I've said in this thread that I would be fine with Beckman getting fired because I don't think he has what it takes between the ears to be a really good coach. Edited November 3, 2012 by whitesoxfan99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 10:33 PM) I've said many times that Beckman looks terrible but there isn't talent on this team, at least on offense. We couldn't score last year and we lost our only good offensive linemen and our only legitimate skill position player and replaced them with bad players. On defense we lost the guy who was by far the best player on defense and our best defensive back and replaced them with Staples who is terrible and a true freshman. Buchanan, Spence, Brown and Hawthorne are guys with some NFL ability but Brown has been banged up this year and when he isn't on the field we are playing two true freshmen at LB. The safety play is terrible, Staples is terrible and Williams and Green are just guys. The coaching on the defensive side of the ball has been awful but there isn't a coach in the country who can get that offense to score points. And frankly, I've said in this thread that I would be fine with Beckman getting fired because I don't think he has what it takes between the ears to be a really good coach. Hopefully some deep pocketed booster steps up and pays yet another buy-out. Monken should have been the guy last year, and should be now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 04:39 PM) Hopefully some deep pocketed booster steps up and pays yet another buy-out. Monken should have been the guy last year, and should be now. Would be fine with me but Beckman will be here for three years unless they go winless next year in all likelihood. Hopefully for the next hire they actually hire a head coach who is intellectual and has had success coaching their side of the ball. I'm sick of f***ing meathead football guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Hey, we scored a td. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 WTF is going on in South Bend? How is this the same team that shutdown Oklahoma last week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Dropped intercepion. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 05:10 PM) WTF is going on in South Bend? How is this the same team that shutdown Oklahoma last week? Lack of offense had to catch up to them sometime. Still another Q. I'm not getting excited yet cuz ill be pissed if ND comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 06:13 PM) Lack of offense had to catch up to them sometime. Still another Q. I'm not getting excited yet cuz ill be pissed if ND comes back. Not a real shocker either. ND coming off an emotional win playing a .500 team at home as a double digit favorite. Add in their average offense and games like this can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Braxton Miller is damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 ND getting bulls*** calls again. That pass interference call was a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 What a BS call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 lol, bogus PI call on Pitt leads to ND TD. If that is a PI then every pass defended is PI. and they miss the extra point. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 05:27 PM) ND getting bulls*** calls again. That pass interference call was a disgrace. That was a great play by the DB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 And Notre Dame scores a TD because of a terrible pass interference call against Pitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Apparently the new playcalling for the 4th quarter is "Hey, let's throw some lob balls up in the endzone and hope someone catches it." They have thrown 3-4 or 4 deep balls in the endzone hoping for a miracle. Luckily they got a PI call and TJ Jones just scored a TD. But nothing can be easy in this game, as Kyle Brindza SHANKS the EXTRA POINT. You've got to be kidding me. If the Irish lose because they can't convert the 2 pt conversation, I'm going to be livid. 20-12 Pitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 ND bailed out again? How many calls does a team need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Wow, that PI call was even worse on replay. Absolute joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 06:28 PM) ND bailed out again? How many calls does a team need? It's a conspiracy, maaaaaaaan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 damn, was hoping Pitt wouldve returned that kick for a TD so I could see the refs throw a flag for holding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 10:30 PM) It's a conspiracy, maaaaaaaan. Nope, it's just ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 I grow tired of officials helping ND EVERY game at home in the 4th quarter that they are behind...............That was not pass int! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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