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You can fix anything with a tear filled press conference and talking about how being a gay football player at a catholic school scared you into doing something that you could have never imagined. And you are so sorry for everything, but you just didnt know what to do, and unless you are a (fill in blank) you dont understand how hard it is.

 

That being said, when I read his quotes from before there is something more here. It cant just be a cover up of being gay, something had to have happened at that time to all of a sudden kill her off. I mean some of these quotes go out of their way to talk about her.

 

"Somebody told me one time the hardest thing about goodbyes is that when you wake up in the morning you have to say it again, when you realize that they're not there. So every morning when I wake up and my girlfriend's not on the phone, it reminds me that she's gone, and that's the hardest part for me. I go through it every day."

 

If that is just for self-promotion, hes a sociopath. And the problem with me believing that, is basically every other story about him being a good person is has been true.

 

I really am kind of perplexed.

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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 16, 2013 -> 09:30 PM)
You can fix anything with a tear filled press conference and talking about how being a gay football player at a catholic school scared you into doing something that you could have never imagined. And you are so sorry for everything, but you just didnt know what to do, and unless you are a (fill in blank) you dont understand how hard it is.

 

That being said, when I read his quotes from before there is something more here. It cant just be a cover up of being gay, something had to have happened at that time to all of a sudden kill her off. I mean some of these quotes go out of their way to talk about her.

 

 

 

If that is just for self-promotion, hes a sociopath. And the problem with me believing that, is basically every other story about him being a good person is has been true.

 

I really am kind of perplexed.

 

I don't buy it. How many gay players are there in the NFL right now? 25? How many gay players on ND? There's at least a few. They're all successfully hiding it. Why is this kid different?

 

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QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jan 16, 2013 -> 09:32 PM)
I don't buy it. How many gay players are there in the NFL right now? 25? How many gay players on ND? There's at least a few. They're all successfully hiding it. Why is this kid different?

 

Did you even read my post?

 

 

That being said, when I read his quotes from before there is something more here. It cant just be a cover up of being gay, something had to have happened at that time to all of a sudden kill her off. I mean some of these quotes go out of their way to talk about her.
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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 16, 2013 -> 10:30 PM)
If that is just for self-promotion, hes a sociopath. And the problem with me believing that, is basically every other story about him being a good person is has been true.

 

I really am kind of perplexed.

 

Isn't it pretty much the definition of a sociopath to be that kind of a deceiver?

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QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jan 16, 2013 -> 09:29 PM)

This doesn't make any sense at all, unless Deadspin is completely off in their reporting.

 

Even then though, this doesn't make any sense given Te'o's (and Notre Dame's) statement

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QUOTE (G&T @ Jan 16, 2013 -> 09:37 PM)
Isn't it pretty much the definition of a sociopath to be that kind of a deceiver?

 

If he is, then he is an odd sociopath. He had the ability to do so many other things, and all he did was create a fake girlfriend and kill her for attention?

 

And he did it when he was already on top of the world for attention.

 

Although I guess you could argue that when he got attention from his grandmother dieing he fell in love with that feeling and thus killed his girlfriend to get the same satisfaction.

 

I dont know, just doesnt really make sense.

 

Id really have to do some research. What Id want to see is the first article to ever mention his girlfriend and then see how it progresses. It just seems so ridiculous to think that he created this fake story to eventually kill off his gf for attention.

 

I could be wrong, I just feel like something is missing.

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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 16, 2013 -> 10:48 PM)
I wish Seinfeld was on Netflix, Id love to watch that from start to finish again.

 

 

 

I bought a few season dvds(and i never buy dvds) when they first game out because of all the "Pop Up Video" type info they had. It was like $30+ per season so I only bought a couple.

 

Now I see them at Movie Stop for like $5 a season. Maybe I should get them to read the info.

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QUOTE (zenryan @ Jan 16, 2013 -> 09:47 PM)
wow, in another bizarre turn. There is actual footage of the fake funeral that shows that Renee girl and Te'o at.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whoa, Kevin Youkilis sighting at :45. This keeps getting crazier by the moment.

 

 

 

 

(J Peterman is such an awesome character)

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This is a pretty crack pot theory, but I cant understand the Reagan Maui'a angle. If ND and T'eo are to be believed now, this girl never really existed. But if Reagan Maui'a is to believed she is real. So those are mutually exclusive statements. Why under any circumstances would Reagan Maui'a get involved? To protect some fake girls honor?

 

What if this is like some sort of Nigerian Prince scam amongst the Samoan community. And the reason Reagan Maui'a claim to have met her before T'eo (which would have been what 2008 when she was 18? and Reagan Maui'a was 24?) is that someone was trying to run a similar scam on him. Or I guess he could be the leader of the scam.

 

And while Reagan Maui'a is from American Samoa he did attend University of Hawaii, so there would be some overlap in Hawaii.

 

The strange part is, I dont believe his gf was from Hawaii. She was a Stanford student and only visited Hawaii rarely. So there really shouldnt be a lot of overlap between Reagan Maui'a and the girl T'eo was with.

 

This is the best tv show ive seen in a while.

 

 

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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 16, 2013 -> 09:57 PM)
This is a pretty crack pot theory, but I cant understand the Reagan Maui'a angle. If ND and T'eo are to be believed now, this girl never really existed. But if Reagan Maui'a is to believed she is real. So those are mutually exclusive statements. Why under any circumstances would Reagan Maui'a get involved? To protect some fake girls honor?

 

What if this is like some sort of Nigerian Prince scam amongst the Samoan community. And the reason Reagan Maui'a claim to have met her before T'eo (which would have been what 2008 when she was 18? and Reagan Maui'a was 24?) is that someone was trying to run a similar scam on him. Or I guess he could be the leader of the scam.

 

And while Reagan Maui'a is from American Samoa he did attend University of Hawaii, so there would be some overlap in Hawaii.

 

The strange part is, I dont believe his gf was from Hawaii. She was a Stanford student and only visited Hawaii rarely. So there really shouldnt be a lot of overlap between Reagan Maui'a and the girl T'eo was with.

 

This is the best tv show ive seen in a while.

 

It might be the story of the year. It's got so many damn twists and conspiracy theories.

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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 16, 2013 -> 07:30 PM)
You can fix anything with a tear filled press conference and talking about how being a gay football player at a catholic school scared you into doing something that you could have never imagined. And you are so sorry for everything, but you just didnt know what to do, and unless you are a (fill in blank) you dont understand how hard it is.

 

That being said, when I read his quotes from before there is something more here. It cant just be a cover up of being gay, something had to have happened at that time to all of a sudden kill her off. I mean some of these quotes go out of their way to talk about her.

 

 

 

If that is just for self-promotion, hes a sociopath. And the problem with me believing that, is basically every other story about him being a good person is has been true.

 

I really am kind of perplexed.

To me it is simple. Maybe he told his parents they had met in Hawaii. Maybe he was too embarrassed to even tell his parents that it was an oline thing. I don't know...I would be stunned if ND didn't vet the living crap out of this (way too much at stake..but then again, look what happened at Penn State). He probably lied about the story cause why would anyone that famous want to admit he hadn't met his girlfriend.

 

Clearly he found out about it and might have at that point panicked and not have known what to do. I don't know....I just don't see what he really had to gain. I mean his grandma died and he's ND's star LB. That alone would have been publicity. While the extra death ("fake one") added drama, it wasn't that big of a difference.

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I just don't see great motives out there, by anyone. The most plausible motive is that he's gay, but at this point we can only speculate as to the truthfulness of that speculation. Still leaves questions to be answered, even if you go with the sexuality cover-up theory.

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