LittleHurt05 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 13, 2013 -> 05:09 PM) strong finish in the first half by Houston Yeah, we suddenly have a game again. What a kick by Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Why is it an off player could use his helmet to steamroll a player but a def player can't to tackle someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 13, 2013 -> 03:37 PM) Well according to everyone this game will be closer than people think. Tom.Brady. Studly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Ballgame. Shane Vereen = unstoppable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 So 3 of the 4 championship teams are the same as last year. Where's that nfl parity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 13, 2013 -> 04:27 PM) I think Atlanta sucks. Looks good for SF. I have a parlay on NE -9.5 and scoring over 50. Looks possible at this point, but not fantastic. Nice wager, Jake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 13, 2013 -> 06:13 PM) So 3 of the 4 championship teams are the same as last year. Where's that nfl parity? For the last 9 seasons, the AFC representative in the Super Bowl has been Pittsburgh, New England, or Indy. The Pats will be favored to make it ten straight seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Why do announcers still stupidly insist you should wait to go for a 2 pt conversion when you will definitely need to get one at some point? Houston needs to know as early as possible if they are going to need 2 TDs or a TD and a FG so you can plan accordingly. Waiting doesn't do anything positive for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jan 13, 2013 -> 07:38 PM) Why do announcers still stupidly insist you should wait to go for a 2 pt conversion when you will definitely need to get one at some point? Houston needs to know as early as possible if they are going to need 2 TDs or a TD and a FG so you can plan accordingly. Waiting doesn't do anything positive for you. I agree...I have never understood this philosophy...but it isn't just the announcers...it's usually the coaches, too. They don't seem to understand that there is value in knowing the outcome earlier and having an ability to adjust your gameplan, as opposed to potentially failing at the end of the game when there is nothing you can do about it. It's as if they believe you get extra points for the length of time you remain in the game or something. I have argued this at length with friends as well. Their counterpoint is that if you take the 1 sure point, there is some other event which could occur afterwards which might render your decision to go for two different, and now you have that point on the scoreboard instead of potentially having gone for the two-point conversion and failing. That seems pretty rare to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Sometimes it actually makes sense to not go for two right way. Sure you know what you need, but so does the opponent. Down 15, so one of the 2 touchdowns needs a 2 pointer. You score a touchdown. If you go for the 2 point conversion and miss, it's now a 2 score game (down 9), and the opponent can play that a bit differently. Take your 7, and the opponent plays like it's a one score game, as it's an 8 point margin. They may have to play less conservatively, which could lead to a mistake and an easier way to get back into the game. It puts pressure on your opponent. You also have to throw like hell down 2 scores, which is easier to stop. If you make the other defense play like it's a one score game, it may open up things you wouldn't have otherwise had. Chances are if you miss the 2 point conversion in most instances the game is over anyway, so might as well keep the game as alive as possible while you can. I definitely see both sides of it, but coaches constantly wait to go for two in the situation above. I don't think all of them could possibly be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Major math Fail there Phil, lol. "Houston should kick a quick field goal so they can onside kick and throw a hail mary." Awesome Phil, they were down 13, so New England would still win by 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 13, 2013 -> 07:00 PM) Major math Fail there Phil, lol. "Houston should kick a quick field goal so they can onside kick and throw a hail mary." Awesome Phil, they were down 13, so New England would still win by 3. Yeah, somehow I think he missed NE kicking that FG to make it 41. That's the only thing I can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jan 13, 2013 -> 07:38 PM) Why do announcers still stupidly insist you should wait to go for a 2 pt conversion when you will definitely need to get one at some point? Houston needs to know as early as possible if they are going to need 2 TDs or a TD and a FG so you can plan accordingly. Waiting doesn't do anything positive for you. When there is limited possessions left in the game, you need to be in a spot that is most favorable for you to come back. In Houston's situation, it really probably doesnt matter when you still need atleast 2 scores. But if it was 15 point deficit and you have the option to cut it to 7 or 8 with 5 minutes left, the smart play is to keep in within one possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jan 13, 2013 -> 08:00 PM) Yeah, somehow I think he missed NE kicking that FG to make it 41. That's the only thing I can think of. yeah, he said he forgot about the FG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (zenryan @ Jan 13, 2013 -> 08:03 PM) When there is limited possessions left in the game, you need to be in a spot that is most favorable for you to come back. In Houston's situation, it really probably doesnt matter when you still need atleast 2 scores. But if it was 15 point deficit and you have the option to cut it to 7 or 8 with 5 minutes left, the smart play is to keep in within one possession. I suppose I can see what you and Krush are saying...I suppose there is value in being able to presumably tie the game with 1 score as opposed to two, since you may not have to pass as much. I think there is equal or greater value in knowing with enough time left to do something about it whether or not you need to score once or twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 13, 2013 -> 08:00 PM) Major math Fail there Phil, lol. "Houston should kick a quick field goal so they can onside kick and throw a hail mary." Awesome Phil, they were down 13, so New England would still win by 3. How about Billick in the first game? He was terrible. He was suggesting the Seahawks might kick a fg down 6 with 1:30 left if Wilson were to get sacked around the 35 on a 4th and 10 instead of going for it...then, after Atlanta kicked onside with 8 seconds left, his argument for why this was such a colossal error was because Seattle would be closer to the end zone for purposes of the hail mary as opposed to the fact that they were actually much closer to being able to make a quick completion and get in fg range. Just bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 13, 2013 -> 07:14 PM) How about Billick in the first game? He was terrible. He was suggesting the Seahawks might kick a fg down 6 with 1:30 left if Wilson were to get sacked around the 35 on a 4th and 10 instead of going for it...then, after Atlanta kicked onside with 8 seconds left, his argument for why this was such a colossal error was because Seattle would be closer to the end zone for purposes of the hail mary as opposed to the fact that they were actually much closer to being able to make a quick completion and get in fg range. Just bad. Yeah, he said something like "this is probably 4 down territory." Um, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jan 13, 2013 -> 09:00 PM) Yeah, he said something like "this is probably 4 down territory." Um, yes? Yeah, it was 3rd and 5 and he was suggesting that they might kick a fg if they didn't get the first down or if Wilson was to get sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 13, 2013 -> 06:24 PM) For the last 9 seasons, the AFC representative in the Super Bowl has been Pittsburgh, New England, or Indy. The Pats will be favored to make it ten straight seasons. And with the Giants nowhere in sight, hopefully they can finish and get what's rightfully theirs this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 08:17 AM) And with the Giants nowhere in sight, hopefully they can finish and get what's rightfully theirs this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 13, 2013 -> 08:18 PM) Yeah, it was 3rd and 5 and he was suggesting that they might kick a fg if they didn't get the first down or if Wilson was to get sacked. "you can kick the fg and onside kick" yup with 44 seconds left, brilliant idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Pats Ravens Niners Falcons Pats Niners Pats I'd love to see any team not named the Patriots win the Super Bowl this year; I just don't see how that can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 10:28 AM) Pats Ravens Niners Falcons Pats Niners Pats I'd love to see any team not named the Patriots win the Super Bowl this year; I just don't see how that can happen. You can't see how the Niners could beat them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 Nello Gamberdino II @npgsports 117 fans at #49ers vs #Packers game arrested or ejected for drinking or fighting - wow! #stayclassySanFrancisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 10:37 AM) Nello Gamberdino II @npgsports 117 fans at #49ers vs #Packers game arrested or ejected for drinking or fighting - wow! #stayclassySanFrancisco That stadium seats 70,207 - not including standing room only. I'm incredibly surprised by how low that number is, actually. WOW 0.17% of fans got ejected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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