iamshack Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I like Wilson more than Luck at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I don't see Peyton playing another 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 04:43 PM) I like Wilson more than Luck at this point. I think Luck had legitmately very little help this year, particularly from his defense, so despite the completion %age, his performance was hugely impressive. The other thing that worries me on a guy like Wilson is...how well will the read-option QB's hold up over time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 04:49 PM) I don't see Peyton playing another 3 years His contract actually goes 4 more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 His contract actually goes 4 more. I believe he will call it quits before his deal is up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Top 5 over 3 years would be (in no particular order) Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees Russel Wilson Andrew Luck Tom Brady Top 10 RGIII (But for being ruined in playoffs would have been top 5) Matt Ryan Peyton Manning Cam Newton Eli Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 03:51 PM) I think Luck had legitmately very little help this year, particularly from his defense, so despite the completion %age, his performance was hugely impressive. The other thing that worries me on a guy like Wilson is...how well will the read-option QB's hold up over time? Not once did Wilson keep the ball on a read option play yesterday. He strikes me as a real deal pocket passer with the speed, agility, athletic ability, etc., to get out of the pocket when he needs to and see the field and make plays. I don't see him in the same way that I see RGIII. Your point is valid about Luck, and I know he was constantly under pressure to put up 20-30 points a game whereas Wilson had the luxury of playing in a lot of blowouts and had one of the League's best defenses to support him. I still like him better. He is just an outstanding combination of athleticism and passing ability that doesn't seem to put him in harm's way the way that it did with Vick and RG III and "running quarterbacks." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 No Caleb Haney love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 49ers has beaten Rodgers(twice), Brady, Wilson, and Brees this season. I hope they can beat Brady one more time this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 03:31 PM) Are you enjoying the ESPNization of him? It was bound to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Colin Kaepernick was awesome Saturday night, but you need to be good for a few years before you can put his name next to the top guys. It will be interesting to see how Wilson, Kaepernick and RG3 play next year once the league adjusts to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 04:29 PM) Colin Kaepernick was awesome Saturday night, but you need to be good for a few years before you can put his name next to the top guys. It will be interesting to see how Wilson, Kaepernick and RG3 play next year once the league adjusts to them. IF he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Unfortunately for the Bears, I think Aaron Rodgers is #1 and it's not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 04:30 PM) IF he plays. That is another big issue for those guys. Can they stay healthy. RG3 in one year had a concussion and tore his ACL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 03:51 PM) I think Luck had legitmately very little help this year, particularly from his defense, so despite the completion %age, his performance was hugely impressive. The other thing that worries me on a guy like Wilson is...how well will the read-option QB's hold up over time? I agree. Other than Reggie Wayne, Luck's supporting cast was far inferior to Wilson's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Colin Kaepernick was awesome Saturday night, but you need to be good for a few years before you can put his name next to the top guys. It will be interesting to see how Wilson, Kaepernick and RG3 play next year once the league adjusts to them. One of the main reasons why Kaep was amazing is because of our Oline, they're probably the best in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 04:29 PM) Colin Kaepernick was awesome Saturday night, but you need to be good for a few years before you can put his name next to the top guys. It will be interesting to see how Wilson, Kaepernick and RG3 play next year once the league adjusts to them. Why would Wilson be impacted by RGIII or Kaepernick? Wilson is a pocket passer who just happens to be fast. To the best of my knowledge, Wilson never ran 1 play of read option in college. On the Seahawks I can not actually recall him ever keeping the ball on read-option action. You also cant compare RGIII and Wilson to Kapernick because both RGIII and Wilson had insane passing ratings that were college records. Kaepernick 150.5 senior year, 3k yards, 21 td 7 int. Rushing Yards 1206 Russell Wilson 191.8 (All time NCAA record), 3k yards, 33td 4 int. Rushing Yards 338 RGIII 189.5 (2nd All Time to Wilson), 4k yards, 37 in 6 td. Rushing Yards 700 If you want to compare Kaepernick, the guy you are looking for is, Cam Newton. Cam Newton 182 senior year, 2800 yards, 30 TD, 7 int. Rushing yards 1473 Edited January 14, 2013 by Soxbadger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 04:33 PM) One of the main reasons why Kaep was amazing is because of our Oline, they're probably the best in the NFL They are good. Three of those guys were first round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 04:38 PM) Why would Wilson be impacted by RGIII or Kaepernick? Wilson is a pocket passer who just happens to be fast. To the best of my knowledge, Wilson never ran 1 play of read option in college. On the Seahawks I can not actually recall him ever keeping the ball on read-option action. You also cant compare RGIII and Wilson to Kapernick because both RGIII and Wilson had insane passing ratings that were college records. Kaepernick 150.5 senior year, 3k yards, 21 td 7 int. Rushing Yards 1206 Russell Wilson 191.8 (All time NCAA record), 3k yards, 33td 4 int. Rushing Yards 338 RGIII 189.5 (2nd All Time to Wilson), 4k yards, 37 in 6 td. Rushing Yards 700 If you want to compare Kaepernick, the guy you are looking for is, Cam Newton. Cam Newton 182 senior year, 2800 yards, 30 TD, 7 int. Rushing yards 1473 Cause Wilson still runs a lot. He might do it more as a scramble but he stills runs a lot. He had almost double the amount of runs that some like Rodgers had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 04:45 PM) Cause Wilson still runs a lot. He might do it more as a scramble but he stills runs a lot. He had almost double the amount of runs that some like Rodgers had. http://pickingpros.com/nfl/quarterback-rushing-leaders.php Wilson does run more, but you specifically said "Adjust to them" not "Wilson may get hurt because he scrambles more than a regular QB." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 01:19 PM) http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/1/13/3872...general-manager Thoughts on Jerry Angelo potentially getting the Jets GM job? Make sense I read Jay Glazer said nobody wanted the job with a ten foot pole.............only way JA gets back in is a job like the Jets! JA and Rex Ryan deserve each other! Edited January 14, 2013 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 04:43 PM) They are good. Three of those guys were first round picks. Alex Boone was a complete bust until that coaching staff got ahold of him. He was a total assclown at OSU as well. Sows how nicely they coach those guys up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 05:06 PM) Alex Boone was a complete bust until that coaching staff got ahold of him. He was a total assclown at OSU as well. Sows how nicely they coach those guys up. Who isn't? (just kidding. I couldn't pass it up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 05:23 PM) Who isn't? (just kidding. I couldn't pass it up) Nice. No he was an borderline alcoholic, was almost kicked off the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Bruce Arians cancelled his interview with the Eagles, could he be the next HC of the Bears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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