2012-2013 NFL Thread

[SOXOBAMA]

Bears will meet with Trestman again this week.

[Kalapse]

Bears will meet with Trestman again this week.

Darrell Bevell too. Seems that these are the 2 finalists for the job.

[SOXOBAMA]

Darrell Bevell too. Seems that these are the 2 finalists for the job.

 

Bevell would be a great choice.

[ptatc]

Darrell Bevell too. Seems that these are the 2 finalists for the job.

That's what was said on 670 a few minutes ago.

[Rowand44]

Why would Wilson be impacted by RGIII or Kaepernick?

 

Wilson is a pocket passer who just happens to be fast. To the best of my knowledge, Wilson never ran 1 play of read option in college. On the Seahawks I can not actually recall him ever keeping the ball on read-option action.

 

You also cant compare RGIII and Wilson to Kapernick because both RGIII and Wilson had insane passing ratings that were college records.

 

Kaepernick 150.5 senior year, 3k yards, 21 td 7 int. Rushing Yards 1206

 

Russell Wilson 191.8 (All time NCAA record), 3k yards, 33td 4 int. Rushing Yards 338

 

RGIII 189.5 (2nd All Time to Wilson), 4k yards, 37 in 6 td. Rushing Yards 700

 

If you want to compare Kaepernick, the guy you are looking for is, Cam Newton.

 

Cam Newton 182 senior year, 2800 yards, 30 TD, 7 int. Rushing yards 1473

Wilson kept the ball a little bit more towards the end of the regular season on the read option. Still your point remains, he's a pocket passer(and an accurate one at that) who happens to be athletic as hell. He's the real deal.

[dasox24]

Firing Lovie to hire Marc Trestman would be a huge disappointment. But whatever. Emery's career rides on this guy having success so he must feel pretty damn good about him. Still, not my first choice (or 2nd or 3rd or 4th...).

Edited January 15, 2013 by dasox24

[Soxbadger]

Bevell would be a great choice.

 

Cant disagree more.

 

Bevell is a Wisconsin guy and I was terrified he was going to be named Wisconsin HC. Him being named Bears HC would be extremely underwhelming.

 

Unless he is bringing Russell Wilson with him, because Russell Wilson is magic and you should never rate a team's offense based on Russell Wilson magic.

 

[Soxbadger]

Firing Lovie to hire Marc Trestman would be a huge disappointment. But whatever. Emery's career rides on this guy having success so he must feel pretty damn good about him. Still, not my first choice (or 2nd or 3rd or 4th...).

 

This is why I was extremely terrified about losing Lovie. At least Lovie is respected and trusted by the players. If you are going to change the entire system and disrupt a veteran team, it better be for a proven coach.

[justBLAZE]

Someone on twitter said Arians is also one of the 'finalist'

[WHarris1]

Russell Lande

@RUSSLANDE

GM Jr. Scouting, The Big Ten Network & The National Football Post. Former college scout for Cleveland Browns & scouting administrator for the St. Louis Rams.

 

Russell Lande ‏@RUSSLANDE

@BHugh215 - As I have gotten to know Coach Trestman I have been impressed by his knowledge of the game, creativity and leadership.

 

Russell Lande ‏@RUSSLANDE

@ChrisHansenNFL - Trestman is an excellent football coach and an even better person with real character, passion and love of the game.

 

Russell Lande ‏@RUSSLANDE

@AdamSchefter - Do not know Bevell to comment, but Trestman would be an outstanding hire by Bears & would turn J. Cutler into a Superstar.

 

Greg A. Bedard ‏@GregABedard Boston Globe NFL Writer

@mikecwright Trestman is a terrific coach. Organized, smart, sought out by NFL coaches for offensive strategy.

 

 

[Soxbadger]

The real tell is going to be the contract.

 

If the Bears coach is being paid less than everyone else, then we know it wasnt about how good they were, it was about how little they wanted.

 

I just cant imagine if money is no option that your top 2 choices are Trestman and Bevell.

 

 

[WHarris1]

“The way he relates to the quarterback,” Gannon said when asked what makes Trestman unique. “Every quarterback who has played for him has gotten better.

 

“If you ask me if there’s one thing Chicago needs, it’s someone to get Jay Cutler back on track. If you look at [Cutler’s] footwork and ballhandling, he has major issues. Some fundamental things have slipped by the wayside because he hasn’t been coached properly. Marc could come in there and get him straightened out.”

 

The guy had success with Jake freakin Plummer (for a year), was the QB coach & OC for Rich Gannon's MVP season. He's certainly no sure thing but I feel like hes getting way less of a chance from the masses due to the fact that hes currently in the CFL.

Edited January 15, 2013 by WHarris1

[Soxbadger]

“The way he relates to the quarterback,” Gannon said when asked what makes Trestman unique. “Every quarterback who has played for him has gotten better.

 

“If you ask me if there’s one thing Chicago needs, it’s someone to get Jay Cutler back on track. If you look at [Cutler’s] footwork and ballhandling, he has major issues. Some fundamental things have slipped by the wayside because he hasn’t been coached properly. Marc could come in there and get him straightened out.”

 

The guy had success with Jake freakin Plummer, was the QB coach & OC for Rich Gannon's MVP season. He's certainly no sure thing but I feel like hes getting way less of a chance from the masses due to the fact that hes currently in the CFL.

 

No I think the masses would be more than okay with Testman as an OC where his entire job is helping Cutler and getting the offense to work.

 

But if Trestman is the HC, he is going to have to work with both sides of the ball, so he cant put as much time and effort into the offense.

 

For example, if the Bears kept Lovie and hired Trestman, I think many people would have read these comments with great enthusiasm.

Edited January 15, 2013 by Soxbadger

[WHarris1]

No I think the masses would be more than okay with Testman as an OC where his entire job is helping Cutler and getting the offense to work.

 

But if Trestman is the HC, he is going to have to work with both sides of the ball, so he cant put as much time and effort into the offense.

 

For example, if the Bears kept Lovie and hired Trestman, I think many people would have read these comments with great enthusiasm.

If Lovie doesn't get a job and he can keep Rod on board, which many have suggested is a strong possibility (Rod staying), then I think it will be a successful coaching staff.

 

EDIT: However, I still like Arians most of the remaining candidates.

Edited January 15, 2013 by WHarris1

[Soxbadger]

If Lovie doesn't get a job and he can keep Rod on board, which many have suggested is a strong possibility (Rod staying), then I think it will be a successful coaching staff.

 

Id be okay with that, but I still think its a step down from Lovie Smith as HC, Trestman as OC and Marinelli as DC.

 

Especially as its a veteran team and they all responded to Lovie. I would need to know more about the previous OC hiring decisions, and how much was Emery/Angelo, and how much was Lovie.

 

(edit to your edit)

 

And yes, Arians (imo) is the better candidate.

Edited January 15, 2013 by Soxbadger

[iamshack]

Id be okay with that, but I still think its a step down from Lovie Smith as HC, Trestman as OC and Marinelli as DC.

 

Especially as its a veteran team and they all responded to Lovie. I would need to know more about the previous OC hiring decisions, and how much was Emery/Angelo, and how much was Lovie.

 

(edit to your edit)

 

And yes, Arians (imo) is the better candidate.

I raised this too...apparently Trestman wants a HC position, otherwise he will stay in Montreal.

[WHarris1]

Id be okay with that, but I still think its a step down from Lovie Smith as HC, Trestman as OC and Marinelli as DC.

 

Especially as its a veteran team and they all responded to Lovie. I would need to know more about the previous OC hiring decisions, and how much was Emery/Angelo, and how much was Lovie.

I agree about the point of how the veterans responded to Lovie. One positive for Trestman is from everything I've seen he carries a similar demeanor/philosophy. More of a teacher, quiet, respected type which would probably bode well for our roster. Who knows. Granted most people complain about Lovie's demeanor so I meant "positive" in the sense of what our players are used to and comfortable with.

 

All in all I'm not disappointed by the list of finalists, considering I fully expected no previous head coaches to be interviewed.

 

JasonLaCanfora: Hearing that Marc Trestman spent Sun and part of Mon in Chicago, for 2nd interview. Also hear Bruce Arians under heavy consideration there

Edited January 15, 2013 by WHarris1

[Soxbadger]

I raised this too...apparently Trestman wants a HC position, otherwise he will stay in Montreal.

 

French Canada is the best Canada.

 

But (imo) there are plenty of interesting and exciting OC candidates every year. The Bears just either go cheap (Mike Tice) or ridiculous (Martz). There are what 50 elite HC jobs in the world when it comes to football (including college)? You should be hiring a guy that youd be willing to cut your dick off to hire.

[iamshack]

French Canada is the best Canada.

 

But (imo) there are plenty of interesting and exciting OC candidates every year. The Bears just either go cheap (Mike Tice) or ridiculous (Martz). There are what 50 elite HC jobs in the world when it comes to football (including college)? You should be hiring a guy that youd be willing to cut your dick off to hire.

Anyone hire Norv yet?

[ptatc]

This is why I was extremely terrified about losing Lovie. At least Lovie is respected and trusted by the players. If you are going to change the entire system and disrupt a veteran team, it better be for a proven coach.

You should have known they would not hire a proven head coach. Other than the Cubs, what team in Chicago ever hires a proven coach, especially the Bears?

[iamshack]

You should have known they would not hire a proven head coach. Other than the Cubs, what team in Chicago ever hires a proven coach, especially the Bears?

I don't think that's a bad thing...what other proven hc are you going to get that isn't coming off his own failures?

[Soxbadger]

You should have known they would not hire a proven head coach. Other than the Cubs, what team in Chicago ever hires a proven coach, especially the Bears?

 

I never did. Which is why from the day Lovie was fired I have been saying that while I was not a huge Lovie fan, I also disagreed with the Bears firing him this year.

[Kyyle23]

You should have known they would not hire a proven head coach. Other than the Cubs, what team in Chicago ever hires a proven coach, especially the Bears?

 

The Bears have never hired a coach with previous HC experience

[ptatc]

The Bears have never hired a coach with previous HC experience

Exactly. For the Sox the only one I can come up with in recent memory is Fregosi. I can't think of one for the Bulls. For the Hawks, I think it's Keenan.

[Soxbadger]

I don't think that's a bad thing...what other proven hc are you going to get that isn't coming off his own failures?

 

If money isnt a thing?

 

The Bears could have gone after Cowher.

 

Otherwise it really does not make a lot of sense to fire a coach of a team on its last legs. The reality is, not many offensive players have left the Bears to be world beaters. Lovie has not had an amazing GM. He may have had his flaws, but if you seriously look at the past Bears teams, they had a lot of deficiencies, especially on offense.

 

I just think he deserved 1 more year.