SoxFan1 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 More on the Bears and Vincent Jackson: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/...incent-jackson/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Hmm, who would I rather have, Stevie Johnson at 5/$36 or Pierre Garcon at 5/$35? The only thing Garcon does better than Johnson is run, and that doesn't do a whole lot other than stretch the field. Loving that contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Joe Paterno gets fired but somehow Sean Payton is going to keep his job. What a weird world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Mar 5, 2012 -> 10:12 PM) Joe Paterno gets fired but somehow Sean Payton is going to keep his job. What a weird world. Yeah, same scenario too. How weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) I made the mistake of watching the NFL roundtable discussion on this bounty thing. I apologize. To say it was the most pointless roundtable in the history of roundtables may not do it justice. I mean seriously, Marcellus Wiley and Mike Golic were essentially arguing in favor of the bounty system, but when the circumstances of the bounty system itself came up, they said it was bad. So basically, these 5 guys (Wiley, Golic, Seau, Steve Young, and Tom Jackson) all believe that the bounty system is a bad thing. WHAT'S THE GODDAMN ARGUMENT THEN? Even on the internet people get scolded for arguing just to argue. These guys get paid thousands or millions of dollars to do so. f***. Bounty system - bad. I think that ends that discussion. You can put in any further adjectives or interjections that you'd like, but at the end of the day, it was bad. This is why basic cable is teh devil. --- Oh, and the Bills are interested in Vincent Jackson too. Three things... #1) I have no idea why, even if he were to receive more money, why he'd want to come to Buffalo. Yes, they'd essentially have 1a and 1b receivers, but Fitzpatrick almost certainly will never be able to get him the ball. His opportunities are going to be much greater in Chicago. #2) If you are willing to throw that much at a wide receiver, why not spend that money on YOUR BIGGEST GODDAMN NEED WHICH IS A PASS RUSHER? One of the best pass rushers in the league is available, proved he is capable of being successful in either a 4-3 or 3-4, and you just so happen to be running a hybrid 4-3 next year. If you can afford to pay 2 receivers $20+ million, then you can assuredly afford to pay a receiver and a defensive player $24-26 million, especially when that one piece could quite literally take a mediocre defense and turn it dangerous. It then gives them options with the #10 pick, be it another pass rusher (because Merriman obviously will not last a full season, especially as a DE), a WR, OT, DB, Tannehill (if he were to fall), or trading up or down. It doesn't make a lot of sense. #3) Because nothing exciting ever happens with the Bills (or atleast not since Takeo Spikes signed with the Bills), YOU STAY AWAY CHICAGO. Edited March 6, 2012 by witesoxfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Mario Williams has become an unrestricted free agent. I'm not even going to dream about a Williams + Peppers duo because it would get my hopes up way too much. And it would make me have to change my underwear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 5, 2012 -> 07:00 PM) Hmm, who would I rather have, Stevie Johnson at 5/$36 or Pierre Garcon at 5/$35? The only thing Garcon does better than Johnson is run, and that doesn't do a whole lot other than stretch the field. Loving that contract. And catch the ball. And not get stupid penalties consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 6, 2012 -> 03:45 AM) Mario Williams has become an unrestricted free agent. I'm not even going to dream about a Williams + Peppers duo because it would get my hopes up way too much. And it would make me have to change my underwear. i cant see that htey will have the cap room to do this, but they had interest in cliff avril, who, if not tagged, would have gotten a big deal too. so why not williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 QUOTE (daa84 @ Mar 6, 2012 -> 07:55 AM) i cant see that htey will have the cap room to do this, but they had interest in cliff avril, who, if not tagged, would have gotten a big deal too. so why not williams? Mario Williams + Julius Peppers = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 QUOTE (daa84 @ Mar 6, 2012 -> 08:55 AM) i cant see that htey will have the cap room to do this, but they had interest in cliff avril, who, if not tagged, would have gotten a big deal too. so why not williams? I think the biggest problem for the Bears is that there are teams sitting there with so much cap room they need to sign people to make sure they're not near the minimum salary limits. For the Bears, Williams would be great but a luxury since they already have money tied up in that position. They just can't compete with a team holding $50 million in cap space if they're sitting around $30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Perhaps a more reasonable/interesting Bears target I think there's one player who should be affordable, available and sought after by any team needing a nickel rusher or maybe an every-down rush end: Jeremy Mincey of the Jags. With four sacks and 18 quarterback hits/pressures in the last four weeks of the season, Mincey, 28, put on a good free-agent rush. His name has come up three times since the end of the season with personnel guys looking for help pressuring the quarterback. Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writ...l#ixzz1oLV8PZhz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 6, 2012 -> 08:10 AM) Perhaps a more reasonable/interesting Bears target that looks Philip Daniels-esque to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Mario Williams has become an unrestricted free agent. I'm not even going to dream about a Williams + Peppers duo because it would get my hopes up way too much. And it would make me have to change my underwear. It would actually be a great signing. Green Bay and Detroit would have no answer for a Peppers/Williams combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Mar 6, 2012 -> 10:51 AM) It would actually be a great signing. Green Bay and Detroit would have no answer for a Peppers/Williams combo. Aaron Rodgers is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I dont care what QB you have, having both of those guys rushing the passer can easily throw off anyone's game if one or both of them go off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Mario Williams is a freak and I absolutely love him as a player. But, he's been injured each of the last 3 seasons so that's something you'd have to expect from him. He's not going to give you a full 16 games. Still, it's hard not to salivate over a DE duo of Peppers and Williams. Absolutely filthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Mar 5, 2012 -> 10:12 PM) Joe Paterno gets fired but somehow Sean Payton is going to keep his job. What a weird world. This post is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Mar 5, 2012 -> 10:12 PM) Joe Paterno gets fired but somehow Sean Payton is going to keep his job. What a weird world. Because Gregg Williams is obviously a far worse person than Jerry Sandusky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Yeah that post was brought to you by prescription painkillers. If the ER saw this they'd never let me near the stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 If the Bears sign Mario Williams and draft Michael Floyd, I can see them going deep into the playoffs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Every year some team goes crazy in free agency and everyone picks them to win it all. Eagles last year. This year it will be....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Mar 6, 2012 -> 12:22 PM) Every year some team goes crazy in free agency and everyone picks them to win it all. Eagles last year. This year it will be....... Safe bet is the Redskins but I dont think we should expect any team to do what the Eagles did last season. The Buccs have a lot of cap too I believe so they will probably be buyers but I cant see them getting more then 1 top tier FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Report: Private ‘Booster’ Contributed To Bounty Fund His name is Michael Ornstein. You may not know him, but he is an integral piece to the ‘bounty’ investigation that currently surrounds the Saints. According to a report, on at least four occasions, Ornstein, a twice-convicted felon, pledged his own money to the Saints’ bounty fund. In 2009, he gave $10,000 toward knocking an opposing quarterback out of the game. In 2011, two separate contributions for targeting the quarterback. And on at least one other occasion, Ornstein pledged his money in an email to head coach Sean Payton, which spelled out the details of the bounty program. The NFL now has a copy of this email. The report indicates this highly incriminating paper trail makes it almost impossible for Payton to argue his innocence, or for the Saints to claim the bounty never left the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 6, 2012 -> 02:19 PM) Report: Private ‘Booster’ Contributed To Bounty Fund Whoa, that's a tad bit worse IMO. It's one thing to have the coaches/players encourage injuries, but to have an outsider, not to mention a felon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 The Saints, Payton, and Williams are all f'ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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