daa84 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Finnegan is a Perfect Tampa 2 corner. I'd love to have him as Jennings is a FA I believe. Only question is at what price. Typically since the cover2 corners aren't the 1-1 cover guys, it hasn't been a position to invest heavily in, but they do need to get better at CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 9, 2012 -> 01:29 PM) So if Manning goes to Denver, does that mean that he will ride the pine behind Tebow? I'd put the Bills as the prohibitive favorites to trade for him, depending upon the price. Elway has never been overly excited about Tim Tebow and they've mentioned several times that they will not conform their offense to his strengths. Ralph Wilson, at the very least, loved Tebow coming out of college and Chan Gailey has had success in the past working with project and athletic QBs. He might sit, or he might be a freshman in college all over again. They do need to address the QB situation for the future because, barring something ridiculous like San Fran did this past year, the Bills simply won't get there with Fitzpatrick under center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Colts cut Dallas Clark, I'd like to see the Bears sign him and forget about re-signing Kellen Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 9, 2012 -> 06:40 PM) I'd put the Bills as the prohibitive favorites to trade for him, depending upon the price. Elway has never been overly excited about Tim Tebow and they've mentioned several times that they will not conform their offense to his strengths. Ralph Wilson, at the very least, loved Tebow coming out of college and Chan Gailey has had success in the past working with project and athletic QBs. He might sit, or he might be a freshman in college all over again. They do need to address the QB situation for the future because, barring something ridiculous like San Fran did this past year, the Bills simply won't get there with Fitzpatrick under center. Fitzpatrick isn't a solution at QB but Tebow is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Mar 9, 2012 -> 07:45 PM) Colts cut Dallas Clark, I'd like to see the Bears sign him and forget about re-signing Kellen Davis. The one thing to think about is what do the Bears do if Clark is only around for 10 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 On the day the Denver Broncos try to convince Peyton Manning that they are ready to win now, the team is dealing with the news that three players have been suspended by the NFL. ESPN’s Adam Schefter and John Clayton are reporting that the suspended players are linebacker D.J. Williams, defensive lineman Ryan McBean and tight end Virgil Green. Williams and McBean were suspended for six games, while Green was suspended for four games. Williams and McBean were allegedly found to have "non-human" urine in their system, a source told Clayton. I'm sure no one will look back at that midseason surge and wonder if it was enhanced, will they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 9, 2012 -> 01:29 PM) So if Manning goes to Denver, does that mean that he will ride the pine behind Tebow? Yes. History has already taught us to never forsake the Savior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 9, 2012 -> 09:50 PM) Yes. History has already taught us to never forsake the Savior. As long as his teammates have their non-human urine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Mar 9, 2012 -> 06:45 PM) Colts cut Dallas Clark, I'd like to see the Bears sign him and forget about re-signing Kellen Davis. Yes please! In other news, the Redskins have a deal with the Rams for the 2nd pick in the draft. The Rams will get the 6th pick, two future 1sts and additional 2nd, per Jay Glazer and Adam Schefter. And Mark Sanchez signs an extension in NY. Take two more teams out of the Manning sweepstakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 9, 2012 -> 10:38 PM) Yes please! In other news, the Redskins have a deal with the Rams for the 2nd pick in the draft. The Rams will get the 6th pick, two future 1sts and additional 2nd, per Jay Glazer and Adam Schefter. And Mark Sanchez signs an extension in NY. Take two more teams out of the Manning sweepstakes. Surprised that Shanahan would go with the young QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I dont think the Redskins have a shot at Manning plus if it wasnt for Russel Wilson this year, RGIII would be the holder of the highest single season QB rating in NCAA history. Hes got some talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Officially, the Rams are getting WSH 2012, 2013 and 2014 1st rounders, as well as WSH 2012 2nd rounder. WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Redskins going all in, I like it. We gave up 2 first rounders for a QB and it worked out pretty well, even if Jay Cutler at least showed he could play in the pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 9, 2012 -> 10:38 PM) Officially, the Rams are getting WSH 2012, 2013 and 2014 1st rounders, as well as WSH 2012 2nd rounder. WOW. Wow. That's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 And thats why if I was the Colts I would have traded the 1st and kept Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Paw Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 this is a great argument for tanking a season. rather then lose 2-3 more games, the redskins gave up 3 of their top picks in the next 3 years. what a price to pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 9, 2012 -> 08:46 PM) Fitzpatrick isn't a solution at QB but Tebow is? There is one general thing that Fitz and Tebow share in common, and that is throwing inaccuracy. Tebow's is more pronounced, but neither are terribly accurate. Fitz isn't particularly quick in the pocket either, but much faster than Tebow (relatively speaking of course). However, Fitzpatrick's biggest weakness is his downfield accuracy and, quite frankly, arm strength. I've seen that Tebow is accurate downfield - as accurate as a guy can get - but he can be more accurate overall with coaching. Tim Tebow has arm strength. Using pure numbers, Tim Tebow's Y/A was 6.4 while Fitzpatrick's was 6.7; Tebow completed 46.5% of his passes, Fitzpatrick completed 62%. That is a significant and substantial difference. Given, holding those numbers ceteris paribus is impossible because those circumstances and everything involved is so entirely different, and there is virtually nothing that can be done to hold either statistic constant. It's still worth noting that Tebow can make downfield throws and Fitz, apparently, has struggled with it. So, based on what I've seen, and based on the numbers themselves, Tebow is comfortable and better going downfield than Fitzpatrick is. His mechanics are, quite frankly, still among the worst I've ever seen. He is also far worse at WR progression and short throws and tends to lack confidence in throws, whereas Fitzpatrick's confidence is through the roof and he merely lacks the talent necessary to make the throws that HE wants to make (eg. I immediately see a guy who has his man beat; I want to throw it to him 27 yards down the field, I throw that ball exactly where I want it, it goes at the exact trajectory and velocity it needs to go, it travels 25 yards, and is picked off, and this is simply because I lack the talent to get it to where I need it to go...the Bills lost to the Giants this exact way on Corey Webster's second INT of the game). I don't care how long Tebow has been in the league, read progression, short throws, and confidence are all things that can be taught. You cannot teach arm strength, you cannot teach speed (nor out of pocket mobility), but you can coach mechanics, you can teach WR progression, when and where to hit a guy short, and, if all were done successfully, confidence will be built. I love Fitz...he's the best QB the Bills have had since Drew Bledsoe. It doesn't make him good. It doesn't make him bad. It makes him..."cool," I guess. Tebow would sit barring injury or QB inadequacy. Edited March 10, 2012 by witesoxfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I'm glad I'm not a redskins fan. that org is so dumb. Even if RG3 is cam newton (which I have my doubts) he's not worth 3 1st rounders and a 2nd. My god. That's more than bears gave up for cutler and he already had a probowl season under his belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 QUOTE (daa84 @ Mar 10, 2012 -> 08:49 AM) I'm glad I'm not a redskins fan. that org is so dumb. Even if RG3 is cam newton (which I have my doubts) he's not worth 3 1st rounders and a 2nd. My god. That's more than bears gave up for cutler and he already had a probowl season under his belt Now that the NFL has taken care of the problem with the salary cap hit in the first 10 picks, this kind of move does make more sense. Cutler was approaching his contract extension time, so he took a bigger slice of that. The Redskins also now seem to have the cap room to fill in around RG3, if they choose to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 9, 2012 -> 07:38 PM) Yes please! In other news, the Redskins have a deal with the Rams for the 2nd pick in the draft. The Rams will get the 6th pick, two future 1sts and additional 2nd, per Jay Glazer and Adam Schefter. And Mark Sanchez signs an extension in NY. Take two more teams out of the Manning sweepstakes. Impressive haul for the Rams. They are in a really good position now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 10, 2012 -> 11:29 AM) Impressive haul for the Rams. They are in a really good position now. Is their cap situation better this year than it was last year? Genuinely don't know. In a couple years once they've pulled off all these picks then they're set up great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Excellent move by the Rams. They'll be stocked when they finally move back to LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord chas Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Another off-season championship for the Redskins. Does this mean Peyton to Arizona and Flynn to Miami now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 QUOTE (lord chas @ Mar 10, 2012 -> 01:39 PM) Another off-season championship for the Redskins. Does this mean Peyton to Arizona and Flynn to Miami now? Other teams will still be interested, but until some GM decides to press his luck, that appears highly plausible at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 9, 2012 -> 09:38 PM) Yes please! In other news, the Redskins have a deal with the Rams for the 2nd pick in the draft. The Rams will get the 6th pick, two future 1sts and additional 2nd, per Jay Glazer and Adam Schefter. And Mark Sanchez signs an extension in NY. Take two more teams out of the Manning sweepstakes. The Rams just Hershel Walkered the Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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