Dick Allen Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 01:52 PM) So, a mixed bag then? Not all Bears fans making excuses for Cutler, but at least a "mixed bag's" worth of Bears fans making asinine attacks on Cutler for tearing his MCL but being too weak/a p****/not tough etc. to play through the pain? Because earlier you seemed to be implying that a good majority of Bears fans are always making excuses for Cutler and never criticizing him. A good majority of Bears fans make excuses for him, and still think he's a franchise QB. He isn't one yet. You can't dig up one thread on Soxtalk and say that is the majority opinion for Cutler's 4 years in Chicago. When he was acquired, people thought he was the Messiah. When some said back then he was Jeff George, people said no way. So far, he's been Jeff George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 "A good majority of Bears fans make excuses for him" what, precisely, are you basing this on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:01 PM) "A good majority of Bears fans make excuses for him" what, precisely, are you basing this on? based on the view from his head in the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:00 PM) A good majority of Bears fans make excuses for him, and still think he's a franchise QB. He isn't one yet. You can't dig up one thread on Soxtalk and say that is the majority opinion for Cutler's 4 years in Chicago. When he was acquired, people thought he was the Messiah. When some said back then he was Jeff George, people said no way. So far, he's been Jeff George. Well if we cant dig up a thread with actual stated opinions, you cant just say "people said" this and that. Fine, he has been Jeff George. That does not mean he was coddled at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 01:57 PM) As little as he targeted the TE's, it was too much. How many interceptions were passes that were targeted at Marshall? But the TE's on this roster are the worst players in the history of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:06 PM) But the TE's on this roster are the worst players in the history of football. I think he was agreeing with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) A good majority of Bears fans make excuses for him, and still think he's a franchise QB. He isn't one yet. You can't dig up one thread on Soxtalk and say that is the majority opinion for Cutler's 4 years in Chicago. When he was acquired, people thought he was the Messiah. When some said back then he was Jeff George, people said no way. So far, he's been Jeff George. Career Win% Jeff George .371 Jay Cutler .548 Career Completion% Jeff George 57.9 Jay Cutler 60.8 Career Rating Jeff George 80.4 Jay Cutler 84.0 Jay Cutler >> Jeff George Even though Cutler was the 11th pick and George the first. Edited January 4, 2013 by HickoryHuskers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:07 PM) I think he was agreeing with you. Ahhh, now I read it differently. Ok, then he is teh brilliants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:10 PM) Career Win% Jeff George .371 Jay Cutler .548 Career Completion% Jeff George 57.9 Jay Cutler 60.8 Career Rating Jeff George 80.4 Jay Cutler 84.0 Jay Cutler >> Jeff George Even though Cuter was the 11th pick and George the first. Given the fact that Jeff George is known universally as a career failure and the fact that those numbers aren't exactly super-duper far apart is terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Given the fact that Jeff George is known universally as a career failure and the fact that those numbers aren't exactly super-duper far apart is terrifying. 3% is a significant difference in completion percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:13 PM) Given the fact that Jeff George is known universally as a career failure and the fact that those numbers aren't exactly super-duper far apart is terrifying. The winning percentage is far enough apart. So there is that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:18 PM) The winning percentage is far enough apart. So there is that George 1 playoff victory in 10 seasons, Cutler 1 playoff victory in 7 with a new coach and new OC coming. As for his passer rating, he's never been in the top 10 in any season. 20th this year, 16th last year, 11th in 2010, 21st in 2009, 16th in 2008 and 12th in 2007. There's enough there to say he's been average. He may be at a little lower end, but George's career, when you take everything into consideration, probably is considered average. Edited January 4, 2013 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 11:45 AM) The point is that he does have bad mechanics. He does try to throw too much to Marshall. And the new HC needs to drill this into Jay's skull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 12:13 PM) Given the fact that Jeff George is known universally as a career failure and the fact that those numbers aren't exactly super-duper far apart is terrifying. Huge difference in winning %. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 02:54 PM) George 1 playoff victory in 10 seasons, Cutler 1 playoff victory in 7 with a new coach and new OC coming. As for his passer rating, he's never been in the top 10 in any season. 20th this year, 16th last year, 11th in 2010, 21st in 2009, 16th in 2008 and 12th in 2007. There's enough there to say he's been average. He may be at a little lower end, but George's career, when you take everything into consideration, probably is considered average. Did i not say that he is more Jeff George? What else do you want? A newspaper editorial taking Cutler to task? Would you like me to show up to camp next season to heckle him? A public hanging in town square? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I dont know what else to say. I havent even been defending Cutler, said nothing about his line excuses, said he has played s***ty against the pack, acknowledged the George comparison. CUTLER HAS NOT BEEN UP TO SNUFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 03:10 PM) I dont know what else to say. I havent even been defending Cutler, said nothing about his line excuses, said he has played s***ty against the pack, acknowledged the George comparison. CUTLER HAS NOT BEEN UP TO SNUFF. Cutler lover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 03:14 PM) Cutler lover Lovie wanter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 03:14 PM) Cutler lover ^ I can't believe you are still making excuses for him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 01:05 PM) Fans know far more about football than Terry Bradshaw or Boomer Esiason. Especially about what it takes to play QB. I thought all the national guys ripping Cutler for bad mechanics stopped when Trent Dilfer decided to stop being so anti-Cutler last year. Edited January 4, 2013 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 03:14 PM) Lovie wanter You just don't get the Bills. They ALWAYS get Bears retreads. First they had Jauron, then they had Wannestedt on as an assistant last year and DC this year. Lovie makes perfect chronological sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 03:19 PM) You just don't get the Bills. They ALWAYS get Bears retreads. First they had Jauron, then they had Wannestedt on as an assistant last year and DC this year. Lovie makes perfect chronological sense. Yea it does make sense. Maybe next year you will get some "Rex is my Quarterback" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 03:23 PM) Yea it does make sense. Maybe next year you will get some "Rex is my Quarterback" I'm actually just going to be pissed off when he doesn't show any emotion on the sideline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 10:29 AM) Rex Ryan has a tattoo of his wife wearing only a Mark Sanchez jersey And she is Tebowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 03:37 PM) And she is Tebowing. Under a shamrock! I get it now! Shamrock McElroy, Tebow(ing) wife wearing a Sanchez jersey! Translation: Worst tattoos EVER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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