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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 09:42 AM)
First i heard that

 

 

I heard it from someone pretty reliable. It does fit some of the mold that Emery described in his press conference. Only issue is Muschamp is a defensive guy and I still think Emery goes for an offensive mind

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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 08:50 AM)
Shanahan is an idiot. RGIII was clearly injured and barely able to walk. This is not the first time he's done something like this. Mully was saying this morning that Shanahan put Tyrell Davis into a game even though he had a migraine that was blinding him. Shanahan wanted to use Davis as a diversion is a play action.

If you change the name to Jay Cutler people would have been calling him a huge p**** if he didnt play. Amazing how that all works.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 10:28 AM)
A large part of the problem was the Bears did Cutler no favors during that game. They didn't say what happened, and called him questionable to return. They basically threw him to the dogs.

And FOX had a clear agenda.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 10:28 AM)
A large part of the problem was the Bears did Cutler no favors during that game. They didn't say what happened, and called him questionable to return. They basically threw him to the dogs.

Just like what the Vikings did to Ponder? How many articles were out essentially calling him a p****?

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 11:43 AM)
Just like what the Vikings did to Ponder? How many articles were out essentially calling him a p****?

I don't think this is really a fair comparison...Cutler was playing, then suddenly he was not. He was sort of standing around on the sideline pouting. The injury was really not noticed at the time it occurred, so no one knew what was going on. We didn't really see him attempt to play on it and realize he was unable to.

 

RGIII, on the other hand, clearly was deteriorating very quickly. He went from limited but still capable, to almost useless right before everyone's eyes. Everyone could tell that he was ineffective because of the injury.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 10:47 AM)
I don't think this is really a fair comparison...Cutler was playing, then suddenly he was not. He was sort of standing around on the sideline pouting. The injury was really not noticed at the time it occurred, so no one knew what was going on. We didn't really see him attempt to play on it and realize he was unable to.

 

RGIII, on the other hand, clearly was deteriorating very quickly. He went from limited but still capable, to almost useless right before everyone's eyes. Everyone could tell that he was ineffective because of the injury.

 

Everyone but Mike Shanahan, apparently. Hurt, not injured

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QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 11:05 AM)
What did Bears fans think when Cutler sat out in the playoff game, when he was injured?

 

A lot of 49ers fans are torn, if Justin Smith should play this weekend

 

 

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 11:07 AM)
If the coach is making decisions to keep an injured player on the field because of what the fans think...he doesn't deserve to be the coach.

 

 

Right because you're damned if you do (Cutler) or damned if you don't (RGIII).

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 10:47 AM)
I don't think this is really a fair comparison...Cutler was playing, then suddenly he was not. He was sort of standing around on the sideline pouting. The injury was really not noticed at the time it occurred, so no one knew what was going on. We didn't really see him attempt to play on it and realize he was unable to.

 

RGIII, on the other hand, clearly was deteriorating very quickly. He went from limited but still capable, to almost useless right before everyone's eyes. Everyone could tell that he was ineffective because of the injury.

Pouting huh? Like a guy who wanted to play but whose team wouldnt let him? If that was anyone else he would be called a competitor.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 04:34 PM)
Flapship

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RG3 has a partial-tear (sprain) of his ACL and LCL joints. #NFL #redskins

Is there any info on if it was his previously reconstructed ACL?

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QUOTE (knightni @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 04:53 PM)
Heard 12-14 months recovery time.

Wow, that's a really long prognosis for that type of injury. There must be something else going on. Even a full reconstruction is at most 10-12. Adrian Peterson was playing in 9.

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QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 05:51 PM)
Is there any info on if it was his previously reconstructed ACL?

Yes, it was, here's the ESPN version:

Shanahan said the results are prompting the team to send Griffin to Florida on Tuesday to see renowned orthopedist James Andrews for more examinations, essentially a second opinion that will decide the team's fate for the 2013 season.

 

"There is a concern," Shanahan said. "That's why he's going to see him."

 

Griffin tore his ACL while playing for Baylor in 2009, and Shanahan said that old injury caused Griffin's latest MRI to prove inconclusive and produce "differences of opinion" in those who have looked at it.

 

"They want to take another look and have a physical exam with him," Shanahan said, "to make sure they're not looking at old injuries."

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 7, 2013 -> 05:04 PM)

That's what I thought. Looking at a previously reconstructed knee makes it a lot more difficult to determine the extent of a new injury. This will be an interesting case.

 

Edit: thinking about the prognosis someone stated earlier. I wonder if they found articular cartilage damage? This would cause the rehab to be prolonged.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 8, 2013 -> 06:05 AM)
Bigg is tweeting that he thinks the Singletary interview is a favor to the McCaskey family. Lets hope that is the case, because he was a mildly insane head coach.

They shouldn't be wasting any f***ing time on favors for that old b****. Die already! :lol:

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RGKnee conversation with "Expert" at ESPN was quite informative. More at link.

Dan Graziano: Does it matter, in terms of recovery time or his post-surgery effectiveness, that this would be the same ACL he tore in college?

 

Stephania Bell: Possibly. Any time you have a second insult to a knee, it's less favorable than the first, and having another procedure is less ideal. I don't know, when he had his original reconstruction, whether they used his patellar tendon [to repair the ACL]. But if they did use it, obviously they can't use it again, so what do they do? Do they use his other patellar tendon? Do they use a hamstring graft? That would have a lot to do with his recovery time. And then there's the issue of whether there's any cartilage damage in the knee as a result of this injury. When you're talking abou the life span of his knee, that's going to be one of the big elements -- not just the ligament, but how healthy is the joint itself?

 

DG: That's interesting, since the focus in these situations always seems to be on the ligaments themselves.

 

SB: We've seen guys come back from ACLs more and more. But the cartilage impact may affect things more. In Adrian Peterson's case, they talked about how great the knee looked when they went in -- that there was no damage other than the ACL tear. And that had a lot to do with how quickly and how well he recovered. In the case of RG III, he didn't have a completely healthy knee when this injury happened, so does that mean he has a cartilage injury too? We don't know, and that's what makes it hard for us to sit here and say, 'Oh, he'll need this long to recover.'"

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