Soxbadger Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 11:50 AM) You don't remember last year? Nobody wanted that job where it wasn't sure how long lovie would last. Nobody wanted the job. Evidence suggests otherwise. Martz resigned on January 3, 2012. Tice was promoted on January 6, 2012. How do you even search for a new coach in 3 days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Jarvis Jones or bust! He will be a top 5 pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 11:54 AM) @BradBiggs The guess here is Marc Trestman could bring Pat Meyer, an OC for Alouettes, and RB coach Andy Bischoff with him to #Bears staff. @BradBiggs Also, one source told me Argonauts head coach Scott Milanovich, former Maryland QB, could possibly join #Bears staff. Ugh, I don't really like this idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 11:58 AM) Thats just not true. There are plenty of coaches that want an opportunity. Im sure there were plenty of people that wanted to work for the Bears when Martz was brought in. The bears just thought Martz would do well. http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4877772 The Bears had plenty of choices, they just took the wrong guy, per usual. Chud removed himself from consideration to become OC for the Panthers. Zampese also elected to stay with the Bengals. Jobs where the coaches werent lame ducks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 11:58 AM) Assuming Melton and Urlacher are gone, we may have better personnel for a 3-4. Also give us a good reason to cut Peppers and save $9 million off the cap. DE- Wootton NT- DE- Paea OLB- McClellin MLB- Briggs MLB- Roach OLB- vs. DE- Wootton NT- 3T- Paea DE- Peppers (at great cost mind you) OLB- Briggs MLB- Roach OLB- Same number of holes to fill, and were spending a lot less money on the defense side of the ball. Wootton and Paea are awful fits for the 5T. Peppers is the Bears best defensive player. They may save money, but how do they replace that production? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 trestman is basically not saying anything. which im fine with. no reason to really spill all of your beans on how you are going to use personnel and who you will fill your staff with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 11:58 AM) Thats just not true. There are plenty of coaches that want an opportunity. Im sure there were plenty of people that wanted to work for the Bears when Martz was brought in. The bears just thought Martz would do well. http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4877772 The Bears had plenty of choices, they just took the wrong guy, per usual. This remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Wootton and Paea are awful fits for the 5T. Peppers is the Bears best defensive player. They may save money, but how do they replace that production? The Bears best defensive player is Tillman. Peppers isn't even better than Melton, Briggs or Jennings really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 11:58 AM) Thats just not true. There are plenty of coaches that want an opportunity. Im sure there were plenty of people that wanted to work for the Bears when Martz was brought in. The bears just thought Martz would do well. http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4877772 The Bears had plenty of choices, they just took the wrong guy, per usual. The Bears had a hard time getting anyone to come in for an interview. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...bears-list-too/ http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...rviewing-martz/ http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post...tti-staying-put Yes, I'm sure there's tons of people that would love that job. There's few if any qualified people. We don't know if those two would have ultimately accepted the job, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 12:02 PM) Wootton and Paea are awful fits for the 5T. Peppers is the Bears best defensive player. They may save money, but how do they replace that production? I was going to post the same thing pretty much. Bad 5 techniques and no nose tackle. Yeah, that would be a great 3-4 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 12:02 PM) Chud removed himself from consideration to become OC for the Panthers. Zampese also elected to stay with the Bengals. Jobs where the coaches werent lame ducks None the less the argument that "no one wanted it" is false, there were other options, I just merely showed even very respected coaches were interested. Its also false to suggest the Bears tried to find a new OC last year, Tice was promoted within 3 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (daa84 @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 06:03 PM) trestman is basically not saying anything. which im fine with. no reason to really spill all of your beans on how you are going to use personnel and who you will fill your staff with. I thought there were interesting bits. He seems like he's going to really micromanage the QB position. It seems like the team of 2013 will revolve around jay cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 12:02 PM) Chud removed himself from consideration to become OC for the Panthers. Zampese also elected to stay with the Bengals. Jobs where the coaches werent lame ducks Zampese wanted the job but Lovie did not offer it to him. Zampese interviewed for the Bears OC job on three separate occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 12:04 PM) The Bears had a hard time getting anyone to come in for an interview. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...bears-list-too/ http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...rviewing-martz/ http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post...tti-staying-put Yes, I'm sure there's tons of people that would love that job. There's few if any qualified people. We don't know if those two would have ultimately accepted the job, anyway. The Bears dont pay top dollar, that is why these guys dont want to come here. If the Bears offered top money, those guys would have come. No one is leaving a sure bet for a small raise. This is just business. This wasnt the Bears saying "We have a blank check for the best coach", this was the Bears being the Bears and not wanting to pay. Its just about money, pretending its about qualifications is hilarious seeing as we just hired a coach who hasnt been in the NFL for half a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 12:02 PM) Wootton and Paea are awful fits for the 5T. Peppers is the Bears best defensive player. They may save money, but how do they replace that production? I don't think people understand if the Bears cut Peppers, it still would be a $10 million cap hit. They might as well keep him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 So...nobody qualified wanted the bears job, like I said. Which is why we were stuck with Martz and then Tice. Pay would be a factor, but so would the complete lack of job security working under a coach who may be gone in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 12:12 PM) So...nobody qualified wanted the bears job, like I said. Which is why we were stuck with Martz and then Tice. Pay would be a factor, but so would the complete lack of job security working under a coach who may be gone in a year. The Bears didnt even look for a new OC when martz resigned. Tice was hired 3 days later. How can you even suggest the bears were stuck with Tice when they didnt even take a week to try and find a new OC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 11:41 AM) With Marinelli out, I'm against the hire. I adore Rod Marinelli. Makes me expect that Urlacher is done here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 12:17 PM) The Bears didnt even look for a new OC when martz resigned. Tice was hired 3 days later. How can you even suggest the bears were stuck with Tice when they didnt even take a week to try and find a new OC? If I said "That is who Lovie wanted" you wouldnt believe it, and you would blame the front office. What is the point in arguing this with you? The Bears FO is to blame for everything, the end. On to next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 12:17 PM) The Bears didnt even look for a new OC when martz resigned. Tice was hired 3 days later. How can you even suggest the bears were stuck with Tice when they didnt even take a week to try and find a new OC? nobody wanted the job two years earlier when they hired tice. maybe they knew better than to waste their time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 12:10 PM) I don't think people understand if the Bears cut Peppers, it still would be a $10 million cap hit. They might as well keep him around. But it would save them like $7 million right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 12:20 PM) If I said "That is who Lovie wanted" you wouldnt believe it, and you would blame the front office. What is the point in arguing this with you? The Bears FO is to blame for everything, the end. On to next season No if it was who Lovie wanted then Id be absolutely fine with the Bears firing Lovie because thats pretty ridiculous to not even look at your options. I dont know who had the power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 12:20 PM) nobody wanted the job two years earlier when they hired tice. maybe they knew better than to waste their time. Sorry doing your due diligence as a hundred million dollar company is expected. It would be like hiring someone at your company and saying "2 years ago we didnt get a lot of resumes, so why look now, might as well just quit." Ridiculous if thats the explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 12:23 PM) Sorry doing your due diligence as a hundred million dollar company is expected. It would be like hiring someone at your company and saying "2 years ago we didnt get a lot of resumes, so why look now, might as well just quit." Ridiculous if thats the explanation. $100,000,000? With what was paid for the Dodgers, I bet the Bears are a $2 billion company, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 12:21 PM) No if it was who Lovie wanted then Id be absolutely fine with the Bears firing Lovie because thats pretty ridiculous to not even look at your options. I dont know who had the power. And this is the point here. You dont know, yet you continue to blame the front office. From all accounts Lovie was very specific in who he wanted around and it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Just ask Ron Rivera. What was attractive about this job last January? Angelo was fired, Lovie was on an obvious short leash. What coach would want to tie himself to this team only to be looking for a new job in a year? Sure, the bears could have backed up the truck and offered tons of money to a new OC, but it wouldnt have mattered. This offensive line wasnt going to block anything, nobody was going to reinvent the wheel here. It was a lame duck job whether you want to admit it or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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