chisoxfan09 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Link: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Whith...-139247408.html Thoughts from Sox fans? Mods please merge with Cubs main thread in Diamond Club if necessary. Edited February 14, 2012 by SpainSOXfan09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 It can stay here, as it involves the Sox. My opinion is as long as it puts money into the Sox hands, I am good with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 If they are doing a serious rehab of Wrigley, then this is exactly the scenario that will happen. And I am fine with it, since it will probably bring some money into the Sox pockets, and also into the ISFA which ultimately benefits the Sox anyway. But 2013? They haven't even begun to get any sort of funding for such a project, I doubt it could happen that soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) If they are doing a serious rehab of Wrigley, then this is exactly the scenario that will happen. And I am fine with it, since it will probably bring some money into the Sox pockets, and also into the ISFA which ultimately benefits the Sox anyway. But 2013? They haven't even begun to get any sort of funding for such a project, I doubt it could happen that soon. So, would Ricketts pay a lease to Reinsdorf or the ISFA? And how would consessions from possible Cubs home games be divided up? Edited February 14, 2012 by SpainSOXfan09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 10:00 AM) So, would Ricketts pay a lease to Reinsdorf or the ISFA? And how would consessions be divided up? ISFA owns the stadium, so the Cubs would pay ISFA for its use, not the Sox. As for concessions, all I know is that there is some sort of deal there where the Sox get some chunk of the revenue. I have no idea how much, or if it varies based on item, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I don't think the SOx will get the concession or ticket money but I think JR owns the parking and gets that money does he not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 11:02 AM) ISFA owns the stadium, so the Cubs would pay ISFA for its use, not the Sox. As for concessions, all I know is that there is some sort of deal there where the Sox get some chunk of the revenue. I have no idea how much, or if it varies based on item, etc. Well, that is interesting, because the Sox may have some sort of right to assign temporary use or sublease the Park....I can't imagine the ISFA can just lease the stadium to another tenant during the baseball season without the permission of the main tenant, the Sox.... My guess is both would profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 10:02 AM) ISFA owns the stadium, so the Cubs would pay ISFA for its use, not the Sox. As for concessions, all I know is that there is some sort of deal there where the Sox get some chunk of the revenue. I have no idea how much, or if it varies based on item, etc. I'm pretty sure the Sox also get veto power over stadium usage, so I am sure something would have to go to the Sox to get them to agree to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 I could imagine some fans on both sides may ultimately recommend a neutral venue such as Soldiers Field but the turf there is terrible and after a whole season of baseball it old be in worse condition. If the Sox can make moneyon this then why not? No rooftop game views like at Wrigley for that year. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 10:09 AM) I could imagine some fans on both sides may ultimately recommend a neutral venue such as Soldiers Field but the turf there is terrible and after a whole season of baseball it old be in worse condition. If the Sox can make moneyon this then why not? No rooftop game views like at Wrigley for that year. LOL Most football stadiums aren't big enough all of the way around to put baseball dimensions into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Did the Sox make any money off the Marlins game here several years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 10:14 AM) Did the Sox make any money off the Marlins game here several years ago? I don't believe so. I think that was a donation because of the hurricane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 10:05 AM) Well, that is interesting, because the Sox may have some sort of right to assign temporary use or sublease the Park....I can't imagine the ISFA can just lease the stadium to another tenant during the baseball season without the permission of the main tenant, the Sox.... My guess is both would profit. Of that I am sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 The Cubs would be silly not to utilize the Major League Ballpark so close to home in order to improve that dump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I would be interested to see what the attendance figures would look like away from Wrigleyville, especially if it's a Cubs team that's still rebuilding. All the Cubs fans that love to use their attendance in Cubs/Sox arguments would have to put up or shut up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 10:12 AM) Most football stadiums aren't big enough all of the way around to put baseball dimensions into. I remember talking about this a few years back. There's no way a baseball field could fit in Soldier field or Toyota park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I have no problem with this at all. I assume there is something in it for the Sox as they would get to keep some portion of sales or get a payment from the cubs for renting the Sox facility. That could mean a bump in payroll or better signings from Cubs/Domincan. Didnt the Yankees have to do the same thing in like 1978 or something and play at Shea when they rennovated Yankee Stadium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 10:40 AM) I remember talking about this a few years back. There's no way a baseball field could fit in Soldier field or Toyota park. You'd end up with one of the lines at like 250-275 feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 10:41 AM) You'd end up with one of the lines at like 250-275 feet. More like 210 at Soldier Field if home plate is practical against one of the walls. You could get about 235 if you remove portions of the lower bowl. You can get about 235 at Toyota park. So, no. If the Cubs want to play in Chicago, they need to head south to the cell. Edited February 14, 2012 by Athomeboy_2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 If it makes the Sox any money, go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 10:09 AM) I could imagine some fans on both sides may ultimately recommend a neutral venue such as Soldiers Field but the turf there is terrible and after a whole season of baseball it old be in worse condition. If the Sox can make moneyon this then why not? No rooftop game views like at Wrigley for that year. LOL Where's Soldiers Field? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) This is probably a topic for another thread. But I really think that with the trend towards publicly financed stadiums (in all sports) and some markets with multiple teams, those teams should be forced to share the same stadium if its built with public money. Scheduling might be harder for MLB teams, but it works in LA (NBA) and NJ (NFL). Edited February 14, 2012 by Athomeboy_2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 11:01 AM) This is probably a topic for another thread. But I really think that with the trend towards publicly financed stadiums (in all sports) and some markets with multiple teams, those teams should be forced to share the same stadium if its built with public money. Scheduling might be harder for MLB teams, but it works in LA (NBA) and NJ (NFL). they tried that in the 70's. it wasnt a hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Wrigley Field needs to be torn down that place is a dump.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 10:58 AM) Where's Soldiers Field? Right next to Cominskey Park. the guy is from Spain, so cut him a little slack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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