cwsox Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 "...Floyd lifts one to right field, this one's gonna drop. McEwing will score--wait a minute, Rose holds McEwing at third! He would easily have scored, but for some reason Rose gave him the stop sign. Tom, you really have to question that decision, with two outs, and the tying run almost assured of crossing home plate... Now Rose is whispering something in Joe's ear....did he just slip him a twenty?" a coach's decision must be above question - at least for financial interests - every time he held a player, or sent a player, or did anything - he simply can't ever coach or manage again I hope he and Art Schlichter (spelling, it has been a while) can enjoy watching games from the favorite OTB site though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 The only way Rose should be allowed into the HOF is if you separate Pete Rose the player from Pete Rose the manager. His playing stats are certainly worthy and he never, to anyone's knowledge, bet on the game as a player. If you look at it in that light, then just maybe... empahsis on "maybe"... he should be inducted. However, Pete Rose should never be allowed to hold a position of authority in baseball again. Never a GM, or mananger, or team owner/partner. Maybe as a batting coach would be ok, but not even as a 3rd base coach. "...Floyd lifts one to right field, this one's gonna drop. McEwing will score--wait a minute, Rose holds McEwing at third! He would easily have scored, but for some reason Rose gave him the stop sign. Tom, you really have to question that decision, with two outs, and the tying run almost assured of crossing home plate... Now Rose is whispering something to Joe....did he just slip him a twenty?" That is EXACTLY why I said, and I quote, "not even as a 3rd base coach." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 The only way Rose should be allowed into the HOF is if you separate Pete Rose the player from Pete Rose the manager. His playing stats are certainly worthy and he never, to anyone's knowledge, bet on the game as a player. If you look at it in that light, then just maybe... empahsis on "maybe"... he should be inducted. However, Pete Rose should never be allowed to hold a position of authority in baseball again. Never a GM, or mananger, or team owner/partner. Maybe as a batting coach would be ok, but not even as a 3rd base coach. "...Floyd lifts one to right field, this one's gonna drop. McEwing will score--wait a minute, Rose holds McEwing at third! He would easily have scored, but for some reason Rose gave him the stop sign. Tom, you really have to question that decision, with two outs, and the tying run almost assured of crossing home plate... Now Rose is whispering something to Joe....did he just slip him a twenty?" That is EXACTLY why I said, and I quote, "not even as a 3rd base coach." yeh, when you said that it made me think of all the possible scenarios. just playing off of it a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innersanctum Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Again, in either case, all it takes is the perception that something might be fishy to hurt the game. Ha! Fishy like cork in a bat....*L* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innersanctum Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 i picture rose on a cell phone placing bets while coaching the advent of 21st century technology gives rose all kinds of new ways to get his bets down on the playing field or in the dugout if you are betting $5,000, press 1 if you are betting $10,000, press 2 if you are telling everyone to swing at the first pitch, press 3 Interesting that you would say this considering that every line I have ever seen closes at the start of a game...at least in baseball. Football, you can bet on halves and quarters but baseball, the line closes at the start of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Besides his ultimate crimes against the game and desecration of the spirit of competition (which have been proven BEYOND reasonable doubt and as such render all this talk of reinstatement pointless rubbish), Pete Rose happens to be the EMBODIMENT of athlete-scumbag, a truly conscience-free garbage of a human being. He didn't get a chance to do Danny McLain-type damage, fortunately as Bart got him first. You people should find yourself better heroes. They are out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Whatever hapenned with this. He's not actually back in baseball is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 No, but rumors are starting to heat up again........ for the sixth time...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I for one will be disgusted if they let him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 It says something about a man when the LEAST of his offense is threatening his lackey into consoling his (Rose's) crying wife outside the hotel room where she tracked her own car (which Rose apparently loaned to his 'ho, lol) and trying to convince her that the woman who was in the room was his mistress.......all the while coked up and wasted Rose was banging said 'ho inside, not giving a f*** (no pun intended)......lol Like I said, least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Rector Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Here's another reason why Pete Rose betting on his own team was/is wrong: When he doesn't place a bet on a game, he's in effect communicating to his bookie and others that he doesn't think that his team is going to win. That type of info is helpful to gamblers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 How is he getting back in without an apology/admission? Go back to being a joke, Pete Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 How is he getting back in without an apology/admission? Go back to being a joke, Pete Rose Admission? WTF, everything was admitted to LONG time ago. For the sake of the game, the next comissioner decided not to make the documents/trancript public. Idiot. Apology? In this case apology doesn't match the crime and should mean NOTHING. In any case, knowing the kind of bull-headed egomaniac Rose is, his "apology", even after nearly 15 years of mulling over, will probably be at once comically insincere, self-aggrandizing and condemnful of MLB, the late Giamatti and his other enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Admission? WTF, everything was admitted to LONG time ago. For the sake of the game, the next comissioner decided not to make the documents/trancript public. Idiot. Pete Rose and Major League Baseball have reached an agreement that would allow him to return to baseball in 2004, and includes no admission of wrongdoing by Rose, Baseball Prospectus has learned. I was under the impression that despite the evidence against him, Pete Rose never admitted to doing anything wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Nevermind, CW said it better anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Wow this is huge news. Although I think it may be somewhat of PR move by Bud Selig and MLB. It is kind of ridiculous for the career hits leader not to be in The Hall. Plus I think he had alot of support behind him, Rose that is. And He won't make a spectacle of the HOF inductions like he does every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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