Quin Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 White Sox win the motherf***ing division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 19, 2012 -> 08:14 PM) White Sox win the motherf***ing division. Not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 19, 2012 -> 10:23 PM) Not a chance. There is a chance. 100:1 maybe Edited February 20, 2012 by MAX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 White Sox can win this division by having all of the other teams suck more than us. In theory, you can win a division with a losing record. Another way..we can overachieve. Last year collectively we underachieved. This year let's hope that we overachieve. We do have some players who could potentially put up some good number. I guess that dreaded word 'potential' comes up. But hope that players like Morel, Flowers, DeAza, and the Tank play in 2012 like they did at the end of 2011 OR maybe even better. Guess you have to hope. Hope Peavy stays healthy and pitches well, hope Sale pitches well as a starter, hope Humber has a good complete year, hope Danks rebounds from last year and pitches like an ace, how Floyd pitches like a #2 starter, how Beckham hits like it is 2009. etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 They better hope it's Danks as a #2 and Floyd can at least be a #3. Sale is the one ultimately who has to be a #1 when all is said and done, and Peavy can overachieve (compared to 2009-11) as the #4 and Humber can even regress a bit at 5 or can be replaced by about 6 minor leaguers in the future if he pitches more like the 2nd half version, which was still quite acceptable for a back end rotation guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Feb 19, 2012 -> 11:44 AM) No blame is ever put on Kenny Williams here on Soxtalk.com Lol, this is a bulls*** statement... How many Hudson/Jacksom threads were there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 19, 2012 -> 10:23 PM) Not a chance. And I would have said there's "not a chance" we had the type of year we did in 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (lostfan @ Feb 20, 2012 -> 12:13 AM) Lol, this is a bulls*** statement... How many Hudson/Jacksom threads were there? What are these threads you speak of? I have no recollection of such occurrences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 19, 2012 -> 10:23 PM) Not a chance. Unlikely sure, but "Not a chance" is just ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 19, 2012 -> 10:23 PM) Not a chance. QUOTE (MAX @ Feb 19, 2012 -> 10:49 PM) There is a chance. 100:1 maybe You both are unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 20, 2012 -> 09:21 AM) You both are unbelievable. Care to say why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 20, 2012 -> 09:25 AM) Care to say why? I'd say more like 8:1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 20, 2012 -> 08:31 AM) I'd say more like 8:1 Sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 20, 2012 -> 09:31 AM) I'd say more like 8:1 I'd say that's way too high. Which really bothers me because the last 3 seasons I've been more positive on the team than the consensus (and the final results). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I feel this year's top 3 in the rotation has greater potential than last year's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Feb 20, 2012 -> 10:48 AM) I feel this year's top 3 in the rotation has greater potential than last year's. Who gets counted as number 3? Peavy or Sale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 20, 2012 -> 09:57 AM) Who gets counted as number 3? Peavy or Sale? Peavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 20, 2012 -> 09:43 AM) I'd say that's way too high. Which really bothers me because the last 3 seasons I've been more positive on the team than the consensus (and the final results). I dunno...for whatever reason, it's always difficult to put back-to-back seasons together in baseball unless you have dominant pitching. The Tigers obviously have Verlander, and Fister and Scherzer have the potential to be above-average 2nd and 3rd's, but I'm not shaking in my boots just yet. I am one of the more optimistic fans, but I think the bounce back potential for our team, combined with some Robin magic might put us in a spot most don't expect. As I posted earlier, the odds aren't great, but it's not 100:1 or any of that nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Here is what I hang my hat on as to why I think this team will be fine. Nothing went right last year except Konerko and Humber. Can they repeat, maybe. Guillen became a distraction. My thoughts you get a bump in productivity from everyone from this. The replaced players are replaceable and their replacements could be better. Dunn, Rios and Peavy can become Dunn and Peavy and maybe Rios earns his money. Morel, Flowers, Beckham, DeAza, Lillibridge, Viciado, Reed and Sale become solid MLB players and potentially progress. Last year's team had nothing go right and they were almost .500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Feb 20, 2012 -> 11:12 AM) Here is what I hang my hat on as to why I think this team will be fine. Nothing went right last year except Konerko and Humber. Can they repeat, maybe. Guillen became a distraction. My thoughts you get a bump in productivity from everyone from this. The replaced players are replaceable and their replacements could be better. Dunn, Rios and Peavy can become Dunn and Peavy and maybe Rios earns his money. Morel, Flowers, Beckham, DeAza, Lillibridge, Viciado, Reed and Sale become solid MLB players and potentially progress. Last year's team had nothing go right and they were almost .500 I pretty much agree. I'm not in agreement with the doom and gloom I've been reading (here and in the media). I don't necessarily think this is a sure playoff team, and if I were a betting man I wouldn't bet on the Sox taking the division. But, last year was so bad, and it's hard to forget that. If Dunn improves to near career normal and Rios plays okay, the offense looks a lot better. The pitching staff has decent potential, especially if Peavy pitches well. And you're right about Guillen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 20, 2012 -> 11:20 AM) I dunno...for whatever reason, it's always difficult to put back-to-back seasons together in baseball unless you have dominant pitching. The Tigers obviously have Verlander, and Fister and Scherzer have the potential to be above-average 2nd and 3rd's, but I'm not shaking in my boots just yet. I am one of the more optimistic fans, but I think the bounce back potential for our team, combined with some Robin magic might put us in a spot most don't expect. As I posted earlier, the odds aren't great, but it's not 100:1 or any of that nonsense. I'm not shaking in my boots about the Tigers either...but I'm much more shaking in my boots about the White Sox. I think I'm going to hate watching this team, and I think that all the bad tendencies of the last few years in how the org operates are going to get magnified...except for the annoying twitter fights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (daggins @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 05:03 PM) It is remarkably hard to factually prove that someone was rushed but I would say Beckham's performance the last couple years probably indicates he was rushed. I think its more likely that he just isn't very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (docsox24 @ Feb 20, 2012 -> 04:02 PM) I think its more likely that he just isn't very good. I struggle to figure out how a player who "just isn't very good" can do what he did out of the gates in 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 20, 2012 -> 09:03 PM) I struggle to figure out how a player who "just isn't very good" can do what he did out of the gates in 2009. I agree. Gordo is a good talent. Some are too quick to give up if the guy doesn't hit .400 na d75 homers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Feb 20, 2012 -> 03:12 PM) I agree. Gordo is a good talent. Some are too quick to give up if the guy doesn't hit .400 na d75 homers. Awful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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