Kyyle23 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 3, 2012 -> 04:50 PM) Lefty minor league FA out of Yankees system. Cubs system, then with Pirates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 4, 2012 Author Share Posted March 4, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 3, 2012 -> 06:09 PM) Cubs system, then with Pirates Eh I must have been thinking of Quintana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Mar 3, 2012 -> 06:01 PM) Interesting that it was Team Dunn vs. Team Konerko. Guess this means that the players are showing support for Dunn. Right? I am hearing that Beckham looking good at the plate. That is encouraging. But didn't he start last year the same way? Hopefully this year is different. I recall he had a good ST last year, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 3, 2012 -> 03:45 PM) AJ's still a crappy option as the 2nd hitter, but the people need to earn it otherwise and prove that there's a better option. The lineup gets very right handed from 3-9, especially if Dunn struggles at all. Viciedo, Ramirez, Morel, and Beckham might never see a left handed reliever. I agree that A.J. is a crappy #2 hitter. I want some OBP from that spot and A.J. has a career .324 OBP. Then you have Rios in the 3 hole sporting a career .323 OBP. Plus those two guys hit into a ton of double-plays. So my question is who is actually going to be on base when Konerko gets up to bat? I'm glad De Aza is penciled into the leadoff spot right now, but I'm not feeling the rest of the top of the lineup. I know there aren't a ton of great options on our team, but I'd be willing to roll the dice on Beckham in the 2 hole. Not sure about the 3 & 4 spots, but I'd most likely just use some combination of Konerko and Dunn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 3, 2012 -> 04:09 PM) Cubs system, then with Pirates Sox drafted him as well. Were very high on him but he stayed in school. He was a pretty talented kid when drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 4, 2012 -> 11:16 AM) Sox drafted him as well. Were very high on him but he stayed in school. He was a pretty talented kid when drafted. Maybe not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I think this was posted already.. CF De Aza, C AJ, RF Rios, 1B Paul, DH Dunn, SS Alexei, LF Viciedo, 3B Morel, 2B Beckham. Let the "whats Robin thinkin" posts come in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Lineup tomorrow (on whitesox.com at 2pm): De Aza cf Pierzynski c Rios rf Konerko 1b Dunn dh Ramirez ss Viciedo lf Morel 3b Beckham 2b Humber p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 It was reported Robin plans on using this lineup long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Mar 4, 2012 -> 02:15 PM) I think this was posted already.. CF De Aza, C AJ, RF Rios, 1B Paul, DH Dunn, SS Alexei, LF Viciedo, 3B Morel, 2B Beckham. Let the "whats Robin thinkin" posts come in Viciedo better be a f***ing magician in left field or Rios better be a damn near Gold Glover again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 That is some confidence Robin putting Rios in the 3 hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Mar 4, 2012 -> 02:32 PM) That is some confidence Robin putting Rios in the 3 hole. What's the MLB record for GIDP...?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Gonzo: “It could change, but the way I look at it, I like it,” Ventura said Sunday. “That’s why I wrote it that way.” Ventura acknowledged that Rios at the third spot is the key to the lineup. “He’s been swinging it great,” Ventura said. “You look at everything he has. He would be that guy who fits that spot. That’s where we’re going. I trust him.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Reifert: As for Morel and Beckham, Ventura said they are flexible. “They are guys who have the ability to move around the lineup for me,” he said, pointing out the mix may be different for lefties than righties. “It can change.” Will exhibition games help Ventura prepare for the regular season? “These will,” he said. “You get guys in and out and still can do stuff defensively and offensively.” Also scheduled to pitch vs. LAD are Will Ohman, Jesse Crain, Addison Reed, Hector Santiago, Pedro Hernandez, Charlie Leesman and Deunte Heath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 The way I look at it, if Viciedo tears it up and Rios goes into a funk(or, never escapes the one from last year), Viciedo will move up. If Rios has a good season, Robin was right, and if they both suck, it doesn't matter. I highly doubt Robin leaves it as is if Rios doesn't perform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Mar 4, 2012 -> 03:01 PM) What's the MLB record for GIDP...?! Yup, I think GIDPs will be a huge issue with top half or so of the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Mar 4, 2012 -> 03:01 PM) What's the MLB record for GIDP...?! 36 by HOFer Jim Rice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 4, 2012 -> 07:23 PM) 36 by HOFer Jim Rice Eclipsed by July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Mar 4, 2012 -> 02:32 PM) That is some confidence Robin putting Rios in the 3 hole. If Rios got his head out of his ass, he'd be a really good 3-hole hitter. Not sure I like A.J. in the second spot, it's putting two lefties together at the top of the order and A.J.'s slow and can't get on base. If you put Alexei there, you at least have L/R combo with pretty good speed. Edited March 5, 2012 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) Ramirez was horrible with situational hitting last year, though. The other side of the coin is that putting him in the 2 slot, he is almost forced by a new manager to be more of a "team player" and less of a free swinger. But will that take away his aggressiveness, or make him start going back up the middle and to RF? Morel seemed to "shrink" his offensive game in that type of situation, and the power only came back later when he started to feel like he belonged. Edited March 5, 2012 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 A veteran catcher that can handle the bat. I remember in '83 LaRussa moved Fisk to the 2 spot and it turned the season around for the Sox. I know AJ is no Pudge, but Pudge wasn't a speedster either. Let's give Robin a chance to put his stamp on the team and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) Ideally, Beckham would hit 3rd with Ramirez or Morel 2nd. Unfortunately, nothing is ideal with the Sox for the moment. As much as they claim they follow stats in the Sox front office, having Ramirez/Morel/AJ with their low walk rates at that spot in the order isn't ideal, but at least AJ's a professional hitter, albeit one who doesn't have much patience at times. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=sh-h..._ramirez_030412 Cespedes and Manny becoming fast buddies...too bad we didn't sign both of them, haha. Edited March 5, 2012 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 4, 2012 -> 07:06 PM) Ramirez was horrible with situational hitting last year, though. The other side of the coin is that putting him in the 2 slot, he is almost forced by a new manager to be more of a "team player" and less of a free swinger. But will that take away his aggressiveness, or make him start going back up the middle and to RF? Morel seemed to "shrink" his offensive game in that type of situation, and the power only came back later when he started to feel like he belonged. Alexei's a .287 hitter in the 2 hole. He hit .294 in that spot last year. His highest OPS in any spot in the lineup is the #2 spot at .760, higher than his career OPS by 15 points. He's also played 214 games in this spot, so it's not like there's a small sample size issue. I don't see how it's really made him do anything but hit better. Edited March 5, 2012 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 More Spring Training pictures here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 4, 2012 -> 06:17 PM) Yup, I think GIDPs will be a huge issue with top half or so of the lineup. Here's the problem though: in order to ground into a double-play, someone has to get on base in front of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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