Jenksismyhero Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 28, 2012 -> 05:34 PM) Btw I wanted to clarify that my criticism was directed at self-righteous hollywood assholes, not anyone who enjoyed the film. It was entertaining and had some great performances. Is there another kind in attendance at the Oscars? I can see maybe the role players and newbies, but if you've been there long enough you're bound to start believing the "movies save orphan children" stuff. Best example of this is the nominee intros for best actor/actress. Ugh, their farts smell good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 28, 2012 -> 05:08 PM) (Can't tell if serious but probably untrue). Not. Serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 28, 2012 -> 07:01 PM) Is there another kind in attendance at the Oscars? I can see maybe the role players and newbies, but if you've been there long enough you're bound to start believing the "movies save orphan children" stuff. Best example of this is the nominee intros for best actor/actress. Ugh, their farts smell good. You seem like an unhappy person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 28, 2012 -> 04:18 PM) The book was also the same way (apparently, I didn't read it). You can read this long review that details a lot of the problems with the story, if you want! Essentially, the dialect is seriously overdone, the black characters are "Magic Negroes" that are used as plot devices to help white people, the black men are barely portrayed and then only in negative stereotypes. Some excerpts: Legend of Bagger Vance comes to mind, right away. The "over-embracing" of the girl from PRECIOUS also is right up there. Of course, you have all these other subtexts in that movie, her weight, her color, her being a female...ironically, the best performance was from her mother (in the movie), but that woman is almost despised in the industry for being difficult to work with so she went more unnoticed. Viola Davis has been celebrated ever since her cinematic showdown with Meryl Street (Catholic nun) in the powerful movie DOUBT...the two leading Oscar contenders a couple of years later. It was like "wow, she can really act!" but nobody had paid any attention to her before that moment in her career. Taraji Henson in Benjamin Button, the Iranian actress in House of Sand and Fog...I'm not so sure it's being black as much as a minority, same thing with everyone going crazy over Frieda Pinto and Slumdog, or the young Colombian actress (she played a drug mule) in MARIA FULL OF GRACE. But YET, I will definitely agree that the applause was more pronounced...it's a "feel good" story, Hollywood is telling us what our emotions should be. Personally, I thought THE HELP was GOOD, but certainly not great. Jessica Chastain (who's been in about 10 movies the last 2 years) was the actress I thought turned in the most exceptional performance. But, because of the theme of the movie, it was an automatic that the focus would be on Davis and Spencer and not Chastain, Emma Stone or Bryce Dallas Howard. As for Holocaust movies, you've also got on include LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL and THE READER. Although I'm sure some will say making movies about dying/wounded animals is just as popular: Marley & Me, Seabiscuit, Secretariat, War Horse, etc. Edited February 29, 2012 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ Feb 28, 2012 -> 07:05 PM) You seem like an unhappy person. It's back to the tipping issue...everyone chooses their way in life, and the consequences that go with it. There's obviously more downside for actors than for teachers, and yet I could list 100 complaints that teachers have and there would be just as many counterarguments (anyone can teach! or those who can't teach, you get such long vacations, it really can't be THAT hard to teach in an inner city school with no support from administration or parents, you guys only are actually teaching only 20-25 hours per week, and you have meetings and planning time and get to go home at 300 or 330 or 400 pm). I've done non-profit/volunteer work for five years (one of them at the exact poverty line "wage/stipend" set by AmeriCorps of $8,740 in 1998)...I've worked in professional sports and seen the 100+ hour work weeks when your team has a homestand...unless you walk in someone else's shoes, you can't really understand it. And honestly, even though that was the lowest salary I ever made in one year, it was the greatest experience in terms of learning about the "real world" for me. Even here in China, I feel like teachers are all expected to be babysitters, pseudo-parents, counselors, entertainers/clowns...that all the problems of society are dumped in our laps. In the end, we all should be careful about judging someone, because the odds are that are understanding of their situation isn't very realistic, it's based on our own frame of reference or lens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 28, 2012 -> 06:30 PM) Not. Serious. Made me think of the scene from MALCOLM X was confronting the Catholic priest in prison about Jesus having "Middle Eastern descent, hair of wool, feet of clay..." Someone forgot to throw out Maya Angelou, Sojourner Truth, Toni Morrison, Bull Conner and J. Edgar Hoover (for the backlash against their campaigns against African-Americans), Abraham Lincoln, Dusty Baker, John L. Lewis, Medgar Evers, The Black Panthers and H. Rap Brown. Edited February 29, 2012 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ Feb 28, 2012 -> 07:05 PM) You seem like an unhappy person. lol, ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 28, 2012 -> 06:35 PM) As for Holocaust movies, you've also got on include LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL and THE READER. I loved "Life is Beautiful." I wouldn't count it as one of the movies that won best picture that didn't deserve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I'll agree with you on Life is Beautiful, although I'm not sure I can agree it should have won over Spielberg that year. THE READER was terribly overrated, but just given so much praise largely because of the topic and the presence of Kate Winslet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 1, 2012 -> 12:09 AM) I'll agree with you on Life is Beautiful, although I'm not sure I can agree it should have won over Spielberg that year. THE READER was terribly overrated, but just given so much praise largely because of the topic and the presence of Kate Winslet. I liked Saving Private Ryan much more, too. And I couldn't make it through The Reader. Also, Roberto Benini (sp?) was great in Life is Beautiful and deserved the Oscar. He's one of the people that gets brought up as undeserving by many people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Who the f*** is Meryl Street? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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