ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Sox 8th RD pick: Zachary Isler, RHP, U of Cinci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) Isler is a hard throwing sinker-baller who has control issues. Projected to be a reliever. 6'5", 240 lbs. Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/ZachIsler48 Edited June 5, 2012 by JoeCoolMan24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-basebl/...ler_zach00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 The last two pitchers definitely profile as relievers and Beck could wind up there as well. I'd complain, but the Sox are good at developing relievers. Draft towards your development strengths, gotta like that. Plus, the last two guys (Hansen and Isler) have plus fastballs. Any time you can get that after the first few rounds you've done well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 5, 2012 -> 02:59 PM) This pick is the perfect example of the draft philosophy under the newer staff. Tall kid with a big fastball that has some upside. It's the 6th round, find a guy with a tool and some upside. And I'm the first to say, since about 2008 or so, the Sox draft philosophy away from "safe" guys and towards higher risk - higher ceiling guys, is a good thing. Again, not saying I dislike the pick, just saying that whippy arm motion is I think the risky side of the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 5, 2012 -> 03:54 PM) And I'm the first to say, since about 2008 or so, the Sox draft philosophy away from "safe" guys and towards higher risk - higher ceiling guys, is a good thing. Again, not saying I dislike the pick, just saying that whippy arm motion is I think the risky side of the equation. At this point in the draft, you're not going to find a guy with clean mechanics that throws 95+, so if you want somebody with that much arm power you're going to have the mechanical risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jun 5, 2012 -> 03:56 PM) At this point in the draft, you're not going to find a guy with clean mechanics that throws 95+, so if you want somebody with that much arm power you're going to have the mechanical risk. Sure, that's why I said from the beginning, at this round I'll take it. The alternative is less power arm, and therefore lower ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I'm loving this draft overall. They're picking the toolsy, high-ceiling guys who they can develop. I'll take that every day over the safe picks. And it's definitely been a trend over the past couple years that they pick the big bodied guys, especially the pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Round 9 (291) Sox pick: Micah Johnson, 2B (IU Junior)... Johnson's season started late because of elbow surgery, and he struggled to find a rhythm at the plate. Before the surgery, he showed plus speed on the basepaths, with the ability to take walks and hit for average. He is also a solid defender at second, with good range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Micah Johnson was voted by BA as the 3rd fastest runner in college baseball this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 5, 2012 -> 03:19 PM) I have to say, this Beck kid seems to be my favorite pick so far. I would take him as my AAP if i wasn't so lazy and a terrible foster parent w/ my current AAP. But check out this nasty change-up by Beck.....damn. http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_...54&c_id=mlb Wow. He does have a little Peavy in his motion. He's got a little Radke on that change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Sox take a draft eligible freshmen (RS) out of UCLA with the 12th round pick. As a senior in highschool he was the 85th ranked prospect in the country by perfect game. Highly touted as a junior as well. Pitched in the game cod league this past summer (got hit relatively hard). Good fastball (90-94) and has been clocked as hard as 96. Was a potential 2 way player (not sure if he ended up doing such at UCLA). Command has been an issue with him but he also has flashed a plus curve ball. http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id...tent_id=8657105 Scouting video from when he was drafted by the Padres in 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) Anyone catch the semi-loophole that teams are exploiting? Teams like the Jays are drafting a bunch of college seniors with no leverage and agreeing to way under slot pre-draft deals in say rounds 6 through 10. They then will select some of the high upside hard prep signs in rounds 11 and onward to use their savings towards. With picks past the 10th round an inability to sign your pick does not penalize you by reducing the team's allotment if an agreement isn't reached. Edited June 6, 2012 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Interesting picks so far. 8 college pitchers, 1 lefty They took a high school lefty pitcher in the 15th round from California--Jordan Guerrero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 5, 2012 -> 04:45 PM) Anyone catch the semi-loophole that teams are exploiting? Teams like the Jays are drafting a bunch of college seniors with no leverage and agreeing to way under slot pre-draft deals in say rounds 6 through 10. They then will select some of the high upside hard prep signs in rounds 11 and onward to use their savings towards. With picks past the 10th round an inability to sign your pick does not penalize you by reducing the team's allotment if an agreement is reached. Its smart and I'm not surprised teams are planning on doing it. I would assume most teams would have been smart enough to figure this out. The one big if is whether the teams can get those guys that fell to sign, since they aren't going to get very much money. However, if you land one or two of them, thats all it takes to make it worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Soxtalk draft tracker, fully updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales Sox select nine pitchers among their next 14 selections in the second day of the draft. Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales Six high school players among their top 16 selections. Quite a contrast from past years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/...ollege-seniors/ Very good article on what teams are doing to take advantage of the new system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales Laumann very confident all of his 16 picks will sign very quickly Reply Retweet Favorite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 5, 2012 -> 06:15 PM) Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales Laumann very confident all of his 16 picks will sign very quickly Reply Retweet Favorite That would be great. I really like what the Sox have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 5, 2012 -> 08:15 PM) Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales Laumann very confident all of his 16 picks will sign very quickly Reply Retweet Favorite If that is the case, that is awesome. A lot of this draft class will be determined by how many of them they get into the system, and how many they lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 5, 2012 -> 07:26 PM) Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales Sox select nine pitchers among their next 14 selections in the second day of the draft. Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales Six high school players among their top 16 selections. Quite a contrast from past years. Sox better spend entire allotment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Laumann video http://www.chicagotribune.com/videogallery...raft-selections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 5, 2012 -> 10:18 PM) Sox better spend entire allotment. If the Sox don't spend the entire allotment of their pool bonus in their first 10 rounds, they can spend the remaining amount of picks after round 10 on top of the $100,000 they are allowed to spend per pick. They just have to get those picks in the first 10 rounds signed, that's the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 5, 2012 -> 10:18 PM) Sox better spend entire allotment. I really don't care at this point other than getting all these guys signed. I like the picks they made on paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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