HuskyCaucasian Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 was this posted anywhere? FanGraphs - Beginning in late November, we’ve spent much of the offseason asking readers to rate the television broadcast teams (on a scale of 1-5 for charisma, analysis, and then overall) for all 30 major-league clubs — with the intention, ultimately, of determining which broadcasts might best reflect the sorts of inquiry and analysis performed here at the site. Now the results from the ballots for all 30 teams (including two for the Dodgers, who have distinct home and away broadcasters) have been collected and will be published here over the course of the week. ---- 31. Chicago White Sox Broadcasters: Hawk Harrelson and Steve Stone Ratings (Charisma/Analysis/Overall): 2.1, 2.2, 2.0 Three Reader Comments • “The broadcast questions are a bit misleading because Steve Stone is excellent and Hawk Harrelson is not. I am not quite as bothered by Hawk’s problems as others but he can be unbearable to listen to.” • “Harrelson is a whiny homer. But at least he is a whiny homer with some personality.” • “In a perfect perdition, Hawk Harrelson would be forced to listen to himself for eternity.” Notes It’d be easier to describe Hawk Harrelson as a “polarizing” figure among FanGraphs readers if there were more respondents who defended him. While I, personally, am less put off by Harrelson’s antics than many readers — and, in fact, prefer him to certain broadcasters who appear to revel in blandness and polish — there’s no question that Harrelson is entirely himself. One note: one respondent left a 389-word note regarding the Harrelson-Stone team. That’s nearly as long as many posts on this site, and indicative of the sort of powerful feelings Harrelson is capable of provoking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Errbody just be hating on the Sox every which way they can. I loves me some Hawk. Always have, always will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooch Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I still don't understand why being a "homer" is a negative for local broadcasters. Only Chicago listens to him, he is not broadcasting for ESPN or FOX. I like having an announcer that roots for the team along with me. There are times when his one-sidedness bothers me, but its still better than having a lot of other guys out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Stick to math jerks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Next they'll be comparing bathrooms from stadium to stadium. At least the Cell should score higher than Wrigley. But, maybe they'd give Wrigley points for being "old school" and "rustic". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I can tolerate Hawk for what he is. For better or worse, he's White Sox baseball for me, and he's what I'll hear long after he's gone and some sugar free vanilla ice cream takes his place. Stoney's sense of humor doesn't get the chance to shine with Hawk like it did with Farmer. Those two personalities were made for each other. I hardly caught any of DJ's last year on tv when I discovered the radio crack that was the Stone/Farmer booth. I realize I'm in the minority here with my Farmer fandom, but if gold made an audible sound, that would be it. If I go to heaven after my death, the sound coming from the harps the angels play will be Farmio calls. Anyone else get a kick out of how uninterested Stone looks when they bring people in to push this charity or that cause during games? So unfortunate for the person he's interviewing, so awesome for whoever is watching it. Sometimes that conversation goes similarly to how I'd imagine it would if he accidentally picked up the phone while he's in the bathroom making bm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Yeah, I don't think a baseball announcer for a specific team should be lauded for being a "homer". It's HIS team. Only fans of the Sox generally listen to Hawk. He is not catering to the opponent, they have their own announcers. That being sad, Hawk is still not very good. He rambles, talks about the past way too much, and uses old and weird metaphors for lots of things. It's unfair that Steve Stone was lumped in to this "rating". If it was list the best 60 broadcasters, Steve Stone would probably be top 10, but being paired with Hawk will drive his "value" WAYYYYYYYY down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I love Hawk. I probably wouldn't like him at all if he was the announcer for the Twins or Tigers or whatever. But I love him as a "home" announcer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Hawk can be annoying as hell but there are some announcing crews that are absolutely boring. And any tandem with Steve Stone can't be last unless his partner has the voice of Gilbert Gottfried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Fire hawk, hire Stacey King, watch White Sox TV crew soar to #1 overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 QUOTE (The Gooch @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 10:03 PM) I still don't understand why being a "homer" is a negative for local broadcasters. Only Chicago listens to him, he is not broadcasting for ESPN or FOX. I like having an announcer that roots for the team along with me. There are times when his one-sidedness bothers me, but its still better than having a lot of other guys out there. This times a million. I grew up on Hawk. I always thought that all local announcers rooted for their teams very openly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Jack Brickhouse was one of the biggest homers to ever sit behind a mic and he's in the HOF. I never consider a broadcaster being a homer as a negative. As far as I'm concerned, if it's a local broadcast, it's to be expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Why is there 31? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 05:04 PM) Stick to math jerks! QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 06:50 PM) Why is there 31? Yeah, aren't there only 30 MLB teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 11:13 PM) Next they'll be comparing bathrooms from stadium to stadium. At least the Cell should score higher than Wrigley. But, maybe they'd give Wrigley points for being "old school" and "rustic". Plus Cubs fans can pee on each other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 05:13 PM) Next they'll be comparing bathrooms from stadium to stadium. At least the Cell should score higher than Wrigley. But, maybe they'd give Wrigley points for being "old school" and "rustic". That's not "rustic", that's "rusty." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I loathe Hawk. He's an embarrassing clown of a hack. I can't wait for the day he's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (zenryan @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 11:50 PM) Hawk can be annoying as hell but there are some announcing crews that are absolutely boring. And any tandem with Steve Stone can't be last unless his partner has the voice of Gilbert Gottfried. There are some real annoying ones out there for sure and I don't think Hawk and Stone are that bad. They are company men for sure and try and make the best light of some bad stuff, but they aren't on the bottom Edited February 28, 2012 by elrockinMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Feb 28, 2012 -> 01:40 AM) I loathe Hawk. He's an embarrassing clown of a hack. I can't wait for the day he's gone. There are some that feel that way for sure. But, not everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 07:40 PM) I loathe Hawk. He's an embarrassing clown of a hack. I can't wait for the day he's gone. I couldn't agree....less. VIVA LE HAWKEROO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 What a bunch of s***! I have MLB Extra Innings...there are some BRUTAL broadcasting teams out there. Sometimes Hawk gets annoying...yes...but I couldn't imagine having anybody else right now. I do miss Wimpy...Stone bores me to tears. I wasn't a huge fan of DJ...but Stone just absolutely puts me to sleep. Worst team...hardly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 We've actually been blessed with some pretty talented guys over the years. John Rooney, Wayne Hagin and Dave Wills all went on to bigger and better things around MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 06:50 PM) Why is there 31? Now the results from the ballots for all 30 teams (including two for the Dodgers, who have distinct home and away broadcasters) have been collected and will be published here over the course of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 QUOTE (The Gooch @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 04:03 PM) I still don't understand why being a "homer" is a negative for local broadcasters. Only Chicago listens to him, he is not broadcasting for ESPN or FOX. I like having an announcer that roots for the team along with me. There are times when his one-sidedness bothers me, but its still better than having a lot of other guys out there. QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 05:25 PM) This times a million. I grew up on Hawk. I always thought that all local announcers rooted for their teams very openly. I'm confused by non-homer announcers. QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 27, 2012 -> 05:50 PM) Why is there 31? Dodgers have two broadcast teams for home and away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 as much as i don't care for hawk. I'm a bit surprised that he is considered to be even worse than Len Kermit Kasper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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