SoxFan1 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 @MLB BREAKING: 2012 Postseason to feature 10-team format that includes 2 additional Wild Cards and elimination game in each league prior to DS. @MLB MORE: This year only, Division Series will begin with 2 home games for lower seeds, followed by up to 3 home games for higher seeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 02:23 PM) @MLB BREAKING: 2012 Postseason to feature 10-team format that includes 2 additional Wild Cards and elimination game in each league prior to DS. @MLB MORE: This year only, Division Series will begin with 2 home games for lower seeds, followed by up to 3 home games for higher seeds. Boooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 01:23 PM) @MLB BREAKING: 2012 Postseason to feature 10-team format that includes 2 additional Wild Cards and elimination game in each league prior to DS. @MLB MORE: This year only, Division Series will begin with 2 home games for lower seeds, followed by up to 3 home games for higher seeds. I'm sorry, but this confuses me. What is that saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 02:44 PM) I'm sorry, but this confuses me. What is that saying? The worse seeded teams gets the first two games of the series at home, and then the better team gets the last three at their place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 02:45 PM) The worse seeded teams gets the first two games of the series at home, and then the better team gets the last three at their place. I don't think I like that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 02:45 PM) The worse seeded teams gets the first two games of the series at home, and then the better team gets the last three at their place. That is stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 03:52 PM) I don't think I like that at all. Looks dumb but makes some sense. Minimizes travel and the better seed has game 5 at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Apparently they didn't have the time to squeeze in a 2-2-1 series because the schedule wasn't planned with this extra team format in mind. It is only supposed to be for this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 03:55 PM) Apparently they didn't have the time to squeeze in a 2-2-1 series because the schedule wasn't planned with this extra team format in mind. It is only supposed to be for this season So save the changes for next season instead of rushing them in. I hate Selig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Baseball and Selig is a f***ing joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Basically all they've done is prolonged the playoffs by adding a 1-game playoff between the top 2 wild cards teams in each league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 05:20 PM) Basically all they've done is prolonged the playoffs by adding a 1-game playoff between the top 2 wild cards teams in each league. But why? In hopes that they can create the same magic of last season or game 163 in the past? That isnt going to work. Seems like they want to give Boston and/or NY every chance possible to get into the post season. Why is it fair to have a "play-in", not play-off game if WC A finishes 94-68 and WC B finishes 89-73? What if the Yankees and Rays finished tied for the AL East and the Red Sox finish with the next best record. So we would have the loser of the Rays-Yanks play the Red Sox, who is just sitting back, for the right to go to the playoffs? This diminishes the regular season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 QUOTE (zenryan @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 05:27 PM) This diminishes the regular season. What it really diminishes is the wild card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 The main argument by supporters of the new system (and the MLB) is that is puts a premium on winning the division outright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 04:54 PM) The main argument by supporters of the new system (and the MLB) is that is puts a premium on winning the division outright. Seems okay to me. One wildcard team will go on and one will be quickly eliminated. Both wildcard teams will have to use their best starter in the extra game and thus the winner will have that disadvantage in the next series. But really they need to go a 2-2-1 format. Teams with the best records in baseball are being penalized here. They are only guaranteed one home playoff game. However, a wildcard team might host the wildcard extra game and win. Then they get two more playoff games at home..that could give a wildcard team three straight home games. Huge advantage in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 If they're going to have a wild card playoff round it should be a best of 3 at minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 05:34 PM) Seems okay to me. One wildcard team will go on and one will be quickly eliminated. Both wildcard teams will have to use their best starter in the extra game and thus the winner will have that disadvantage in the next series. But really they need to go a 2-2-1 format. Teams with the best records in baseball are being penalized here. They are only guaranteed one home playoff game. However, a wildcard team might host the wildcard extra game and win. Then they get two more playoff games at home..that could give a wildcard team three straight home games. Huge advantage in the playoffs. The 2-3 division series is only for 2012 because the MLB schedule was finalized before the playoff changes were approved. It will be 2-2-1 again next year and for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 06:46 PM) If they're going to have a wild card playoff round it should be a best of 3 at minimum. They can't do a best of three. That would give the division winners at least 5 days off if the wildcard teams get a day break on either end. That isn't fair to the division winners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Awful, awful, awful. This is a disgusting, despicable tragedy. First they f*** up the draft/international system, now this? Selig's motto: when it ain't broke; fix it. I always said I'd put a bullet in my brain before I became a hockey fan. But I think the time is now. Who are the top players today? Mario Lemuix? Mark Messiah? Who else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 07:13 PM) They can't do a best of three. That would give the division winners at least 5 days off if the wildcard teams get a day break on either end. That isn't fair to the division winners. In my opinion, if teams get 4-5 days off, it's not a big deal. It's an excuse after those teams lose. Everybody cites the 07 Rockies that were hot going into the playoffs, but then had 5 days or something off going into the World Series. But look at the 05 White Sox. They had a bunch of time off. Garland pitched a complete game on 13 days rest. For some teams, 4 or 5 days off would give them time to heal, fresh bullpen, set the rotation any way they want. There would be positives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 07:23 PM) Awful, awful, awful. This is a disgusting, despicable tragedy. First they f*** up the draft/international system, now this? Selig's motto: when it ain't broke; fix it. I always said I'd put a bullet in my brain before I became a hockey fan. But I think the time is now. Who are the top players today? Mario Lemuix? Mark Messiah? Who else? The draft is much better. Evens out the playing field a little more. It decreases the "whoever has the most money wins" effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 07:33 PM) In my opinion, if teams get 4-5 days off, it's not a big deal. It's an excuse after those teams lose. Everybody cites the 07 Rockies that were hot going into the playoffs, but then had 5 days or something off going into the World Series. But look at the 05 White Sox. They had a bunch of time off. Garland pitched a complete game on 13 days rest. For some teams, 4 or 5 days off would give them time to heal, fresh bullpen, set the rotation any way they want. There would be positives. The players hate if they get more than 2-3 days off. It may help a few injured players but that's it. You would hear the players go crazy if they tired to add another layer of playoffs of 3 or more games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 2, 2012 -> 10:30 PM) The draft is much better. Evens out the playing field a little more. It decreases the "whoever has the most money wins" effect. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I think this format will work. 2012 will be VERY interesting. especially come september. selig wanted it this year becuase the tv deals expire in 2013. And if you can offer a potential tv partner a sudden death playoff game(the wild card round), they'll get excited. espn has been salty for awhile that they are all but excluded from the postseason, and nbc is itching to get back in. And with comcast owning nbc(and partners with a few teams on RSNs), they may want a bigger slice of the pie. i also wouldnt be suprised if MLBnetwork takes the wild card games, seeing as they have high visibilty already on cable. dont forget that the newer LOCAL deals are extremely lucrative. if a team like texas, or both la teams is in the hunt longer, more value to thier RSNs(both the rangers and angels were awarded a stake in thier fox sportsnets on top of the BILLION they will recieve as part of their deals). and that can help drive up ALL local tv contracts. the white sox (and cubs)currently get 45 million a year, and the tigers are at 40 million. seeing as the rangers and angels are now getting 150 million PER YEAR, it's not inconcieveable that more traditional baseball markets can cash in too. but the rsns will want more meaningful games. more teams fighting for the playoffs will help that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Mar 3, 2012 -> 10:26 AM) I think this format will work. 2012 will be VERY interesting. especially come september. selig wanted it this year becuase the tv deals expire in 2013. And if you can offer a potential tv partner a sudden death playoff game(the wild card round), they'll get excited. espn has been salty for awhile that they are all but excluded from the postseason, and nbc is itching to get back in. And with comcast owning nbc(and partners with a few teams on RSNs), they may want a bigger slice of the pie. i also wouldnt be suprised if MLBnetwork takes the wild card games, seeing as they have high visibilty already on cable. dont forget that the newer LOCAL deals are extremely lucrative. if a team like texas, or both la teams is in the hunt longer, more value to thier RSNs(both the rangers and angels were awarded a stake in thier fox sportsnets on top of the BILLION they will recieve as part of their deals). and that can help drive up ALL local tv contracts. the white sox (and cubs)currently get 45 million a year, and the tigers are at 40 million. seeing as the rangers and angels are now getting 150 million PER YEAR, it's not inconcieveable that more traditional baseball markets can cash in too. but the rsns will want more meaningful games. more teams fighting for the playoffs will help that. This is a very smart post. Thank you I learned a ton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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