Jake Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 03:41 PM) Sounds like things are going to get dicey. Turkey hit Syrian military bases. The problem is that unlike rogue elements in Afghanistan, Palestine, etc, this is the actual Syrian military hitting Turkey. It also is different because Turkey has the superior military support (part of Nato) so they can do whatever they want. You'll see how powerful these international organizations are when a country like Turkey wants the USA to save their asses and the USA doesn't want to do it. hint: no power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Eh, if it was one of the original NATO members there would be no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Yeah that 3 year difference between 1949 and 1952 really changes things. Turkey was involved in the Korean War, which is pretty much the first major NATO military operation. Do you think that Germany doesnt get as much support from Nato? They joined in 1955. Why would the US need to save Turkey's ass from Syria? By all accounts Turkey's army is vastly superior to Syrias, Im pretty sure Turkey has the 2nd largest military in Nato. The issue is that a war declaration on any member of Nato is a declaration on all members. Thus Syria can not do anything to Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Pretty crazy story. Richard Engel and members of his network production team were freed from captors in Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Starting to see reports of Syria having used gas. Hard to confirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Israel allegedly attacked Syria today. UN hilariously cant determine if it happened due to "bad weather". http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/syria/un-...anes-over-golan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 03:27 PM) Israel allegedly attacked Syria today. UN hilariously cant determine if it happened due to "bad weather". http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/syria/un-...anes-over-golan "Allegedly attacked" and "flew over an area" seem like radically different things, no? Edited January 31, 2013 by Jenksismybitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 yeah, airspace violations aren't exactly analogous to attacks, even if they are still hostile actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 04:29 PM) "Allegedly attacked" and "flown over an area" seem like radically different things, no? There are a lot of conflicting reports. Israel is saying nothing. Rebels are saying that they (the Rebels) attacked the compound with rockets. I believe they are also confirming that Israel attacked something. Iran/Syria is saying that Israel destroyed the compound with attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 05:33 PM) There are a lot of conflicting reports. Israel is saying nothing. Rebels are saying that they (the Rebels) attacked the compound with rockets. I believe they are also confirming that Israel attacked something. Iran/Syria is saying that Israel destroyed the compound with attacks. American officials are confirming the report of an Israeli airstrike near Damascus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I'll be hightailing it out of the USA if we go into a full-blown war over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 06:37 PM) I'll be hightailing it out of the USA if we go into a full-blown war over this. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 06:37 PM) I'll be hightailing it out of the USA if we go into a full-blown war over this. Your avitar should read 'small ears, BIG EARS'. Would be accurate without digital manipulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 09:23 AM) Your avitar should read 'small ears, BIG EARS'. Would be accurate without digital manipulation. Indeed. I'd change it to something else but I'm too lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 06:37 PM) I'll be hightailing it out of the USA if we go into a full-blown war over this. I second this motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 12:47 PM) I second this motion. Move to Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 12:47 PM) I second this motion. I still don't get this... Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 But yes, the US should stay out of this middle east stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 01:25 PM) But yes, the US should stay out of this middle east stuff. This was likely at the US's behest. Israel gives us a very good base of operation and also cover for when we want bad things done to Iran. The US will never stay out of the Middle East as long as there is an extremely important resource there. And even then, I really dont like the idea of "isolationism". The last time the US went down the path of "staying out of other people's problems" we ended up still having to get involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 01:24 PM) Move to Canada? Nah, Japan. I have permanent residency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 01:24 PM) I still don't get this... Why? It's the blackhole effect. That will ultimately bring the US involved and I rather not stick around when people go apes***. Ya dig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 So you are going to move to a country that is entirely dependent on the support of the US, because the US is supporting another country that is entirely dependent on the support of the US? What are you going to do when the US starts interfering in Asia to protect SK, Taiwan and Japan from China? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) I rather not play this hypothetical game. People are tired of this damn politicians making decisions that are vastly unpopular with the majority of people. I have a feeling if we are somehow pushed into another war that the people in this country will lose their cool. Japan might be dependent on the US but the reality of the matter is it'll be away from the ticking time bomb that is the American people. Edited February 1, 2013 by pettie4sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 03:19 PM) I rather not play this hypothetical game. People are tired of this damn politicians making decisions that are vastly unpopular with the majority of people. I have a feeling if we are somehow pushed into another war that the people in this country will lose their cool. Japan might be dependent on the US but the reality of the matter is it'll be away from the ticking time bomb that is the American people. Vastly unpopular with who? In the last election Obama was being attacked for not being supportive of Israel enough. That Obama is the least friendly President to the state of Israel. Even liberals wont really mind decimating Iran. Iran's nonsense propaganda against Jews, Israel and the US has basically given us a green light to do anything we want to Tehran. I dont really care what is vastly popular or not popular. It was vastly unpopular to get involved in WWII prior to Pearl Harbor. It was vastly popular to attack Iraq. Popularity doesnt make it right or wrong. Politicians should be making decisions that are for the good of the whole. If they believe that attacking a convoy in Syria will prevent deaths of innocents, they are well within their rights to make that decision. I could care less what is popular with America. Slavery was popular, so what. The reality is that the US Empire has governed over the most peaceful time period in the history of the world. Hate Americans or love Americans, its a fabrication of history to suggest that the US is any sort of "ticking time bomb." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 04:32 PM) Even liberals wont really mind decimating Iran. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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