Syria

[brett05]

Congress was informed in advance. This action is receiving bi-partisan praise.

[RockRaines]

He went from a civilian with a Twitter account to the most powerful man in the world so quickly and faces this f***ed up situation in Syria. For all his bulls*** and flip flopping, those tweets seem like one of the last places to point fingers IMO.

I assume he will also flip flop on letting Syrians into the US?

 

Nice to see the republicans stalwarts come around and admit Obama and the dems were right all along.

Edited April 7, 2017 by RockRaines

[StrangeSox]

Russia was notified in advance because they had troops stationed there, which was the correct move.

 

Nothing good will come from intervention in Syria, but it's not surprising that Hawks from both parties and the media are cheering this on. Let's hope this strike on a military base is the extent of it.

[GoSox05]

Russia was notified in advance because they had troops stationed there, which was the correct move.

 

Nothing good will come from intervention in Syria, but it's not surprising that Hawks from both parties and the media are cheering this on. Let's hope this strike on a military base is the extent of it.

 

 

It's all the same people that cheered on the Iraq war.

 

If history tells us anything, it's that this won't be the end of it. More than likely the start.

[StrangeSox]

It's all the same people that cheered on the Iraq war.

 

If history tells us anything, it's that this won't be the end of it. More than likely the start.

 

Interestingly, there's a bunch of "never trump!" neocons coming around to him because they love nothing more than bombing the Middle East while his alt-right base is freaking out because they thought he was an isolationist for some reason.

 

edit: the US has had "advisors" in Syria both officially and unofficially for at least a couple of years now.

Edited April 7, 2017 by StrangeSox

[LittleHurt05]

Russia was notified in advance because they had troops stationed there, which was the correct move.

 

Nothing good will come from intervention in Syria, but it's not surprising that Hawks from both parties and the media are cheering this on. Let's hope this strike on a military base is the extent of it.

 

Politicians are always scared to be against moves like this, just in case it can be construed as anti-patriotism and anti-"SUPPORT THE TROOPS".

[StrangeSox]

Politicians are always scared to be against moves like this, just in case it can be construed as anti-patriotism and anti-"SUPPORT THE TROOPS".

That's true for some, but I think a lot of them are genuinely interventionist hawks.

 

 

It's interesting how, worldwide, there's little coverage and outrage when conventional bombing kills many hundreds of people a week, but when it's chemical weapons, it's a line that just can't be crossed. It's a common global thing and not specific to Trump or the US but sort of standard since WWI.

[StrangeSox]

Russian missile boat heading to the area

 

http://tass.com/defense/939994

[StrangeSox]

The Associated Press ✔ @AP

BREAKING Russian military says it will help Syria strengthen its air defenses after US strike.

5:22 AM - 7 Apr 2017

 

The Associated Press ✔ @AP

BREAKING: Russia says it is suspending deal with United States to prevent mid-air incidents over Syria in response to U.S. strike.

3:05 AM - 7 Apr 2017

 

 

 

please don't escalate please don't escalate please don't escalate please don't escalate please don't escalate

Edited April 7, 2017 by StrangeSox

[GoSox05]

Interestingly, there's a bunch of "never trump!" neocons coming around to him because they love nothing more than bombing the Middle East while his alt-right base is freaking out because they thought he was an isolationist for some reason.

 

edit: the US has had "advisors" in Syria both officially and unofficially for at least a couple of years now.

 

Worse then the never Trump neocons are the war happy liberals that are supporting this. Schumer and Pelosi both supported it.

 

 

If you turned on your TV last night to see what was going on, you would be hard pressed to find any dissent. Fox, CNN and MSNBC were all foaming at the mouth with love for firing missiles.

[StrangeSox]

I had hoped a deeply unpopular and thus far totally incompetent President launching a military strike wouldn't trigger the war boners, but I was very dumb.

Edited April 7, 2017 by StrangeSox

[RockRaines]

Worse then the never Trump neocons are the war happy liberals that are supporting this. Schumer and Pelosi both supported it.

 

 

If you turned on your TV last night to see what was going on, you would be hard pressed to find any dissent. Fox, CNN and MSNBC were all foaming at the mouth with love for firing missiles.

Dems largely wanted to bomb Syria, it was the right that was against it. Now they've flipped and a majority are in favor.

[StrangeSox]

New Day ✔ @NewDay

.@FareedZakaria on Syria strikes: "I think Donald Trump became President of the United States" last night

7:59 AM - 7 Apr 2017

 

this country sure does love war

[LittleHurt05]

Russia was notified in advance because they had troops stationed there, which was the correct move.

 

Nothing good will come from intervention in Syria, but it's not surprising that Hawks from both parties and the media are cheering this on. Let's hope this strike on a military base is the extent of it.

 

What does that mean if Russia had troops stationed at the air base that launched a chemical attack?

[bmags]

I had hoped a deeply unpopular and thus far totally incompetent President launching a military strike wouldn't trigger the war boners, but I was very dumb.

 

The only true centrist policy is war.

 

That said, there is some element of staged punishment here that I wouldn't totally be against. But these things don't de-escalate and it shouldn't have occurred without Congressional approval. Thought Congress turned a corner there in 2013 but nothing shows your serious-ness like air strikes.

 

 

[bmags]

What does that mean if Russia had troops stationed at the air base that launched a chemical attack?

 

Yep.

 

 

[Kyyle23]

Congress was informed in advance. This action is receiving bi-partisan praise.

 

Russia was informed in advance. Congress was bypassed

[StrangeSox]

Russia was informed in advance. Congress was bypassed

It's 100% a good thing that we informed Russia so that they could evacuate rather than killing Russian soldiers.

 

Congress should be providing authorization here, but they should be overseeing the endless droning we've been doing across the Middle East and North Africa for years.

[BigSqwert]

[Jenksismyhero]

 

Come on now, if this were out of the blue that would be one thing, but this is a response to a chemical attack, using weapons that they promised were gone 3 years ago. A response was absolutely necessary. We went the political route in 2013 and where did it get us? Nowhere. At least Trump has the element of "we have no idea what the f*** he would do, maybe we should think twice about using these heinous weapons on women and children."

 

Also, not sure why you guys are worried about Russia. You've been arguing that Trump and Putin are tight for months.

[Jenksismyhero]

It's 100% a good thing that we informed Russia so that they could evacuate rather than killing Russian soldiers.

 

Congress should be providing authorization here, but they should be overseeing the endless droning we've been doing across the Middle East and North Africa for years.

 

I'm confused why Russia wouldn't have also told Assad's troops to evacuate. Collateral damage?

[bmags]

Come on now, if this were out of the blue that would be one thing, but this is a response to a chemical attack, using weapons that they promised were gone 3 years ago. A response was absolutely necessary. We went the political route in 2013 and where did it get us? Nowhere. At least Trump has the element of "we have no idea what the f*** he would do, maybe we should think twice about using these heinous weapons on women and children."

 

Also, not sure why you guys are worried about Russia. You've been arguing that Trump and Putin are tight for months.

 

This is so ridiculous.

[StrangeSox]

I'm confused why Russia wouldn't have also told Assad's troops to evacuate. Collateral damage?

 

I think they largely did, but I'm not sure how much notice they actually got.

[Jenksismyhero]

I think they largely did, but I'm not sure how much notice they actually got.

 

I read 30 minutes, but if it was enough time for Russian soldiers to escape...

[GoSox05]

Come on now, if this were out of the blue that would be one thing, but this is a response to a chemical attack, using weapons that they promised were gone 3 years ago. A response was absolutely necessary. We went the political route in 2013 and where did it get us? Nowhere. At least Trump has the element of "we have no idea what the f*** he would do, maybe we should think twice about using these heinous weapons on women and children."

 

Also, not sure why you guys are worried about Russia. You've been arguing that Trump and Putin are tight for months.

 

 

I like when people start the "political route" doesn't work, we must bomb. When has the "bomb route" ever worked?

 

 

Also, since when does this administration and people that like Trump all the sudden start giving a s*** about Syrian citizens or people in the middle east in general? They only ever get "humanitarian" when it's an excuse to bomb something. He has banned refugees and cut back on humanitarian aid.

 

 

Trump authorized a mission in Yemen that ended up with a Navy Seal shooting a 6 year old girl in the neck, in which she bleed out and died from. Give me a f***ing break about people giving a s*** about people in that area.