Jenksismyhero Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) Lol, yeah that was a poor argument. Wasn't there something in the last few years about red meat lowering cholesterol? Edit: http://news.menshealth.com/beef-good-for-y...art/2011/12/20/ Edited March 13, 2012 by Jenksismybitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I don't know. A 20 year study of 110,000 adults seems pretty convincing (referring to the article Steve posted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 09:07 AM) I don't know. A 20 year study of 110,000 adults seems pretty convincing (referring to the article Steve posted). Here is my own "science". I had a friend peer review this "science", so it's now fact. Oh, it's also called common sense. Red meat is bad for you IF consumed in too high of a quantity (note: moderation rears it's ugly head again) ...just like breathing is probably bad for you, unless you live in the middle of no-where, far outside of a City, unless you find a way to moderate how much you have to breathe. Where you like to murder helpless plants, trees, and other totally harmless life, I prefer to kill only things that can defend themselves, which can look me in the eye. So unless you start eating a bunch of Venus fly traps, or other flesh eating plants, you're nothing more than a two-bit murderous thug that picks on helpless life that can't defend itself, nor see you coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 08:58 AM) I don't know of one specifically off the top of my head, just seems like there are studies on red meat all the time. LOL, I really doubt there's been a legitimate study linking red meat to good health effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 09:19 AM) Red meat is bad for you IF consumed in too high of a quantity (note: moderation rears it's ugly head again) That was the point of my original post. How many people consume one hotdog (or some other similarly processed red meat - fast food)... ONE HOT DOG a day to be moderation? Because that s*** is killing people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 09:04 AM) Lol, yeah that was a poor argument. Wasn't there something in the last few years about red meat lowering cholesterol? Edit: http://news.menshealth.com/beef-good-for-y...art/2011/12/20/ When study participants followed a DASH (Dietary Approaches to Stop Hypertension) diet—which encourages lean meats, low-fat dairy, whole grains, and fruits and vegetables—and consumed 4 to 5.4 ounces of lean beef a day in place of chicken or fish, their levels of harmful LDL cholesterol decreased by about 10 percent. Those results are the same as the regular DASH group. That paragraph is ridiculous on many levels, mostly the final sentence which shows red meat had no health benefits over anything else whatsoever. It's the incredibly strict diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 10:07 AM) I don't know. A 20 year study of 110,000 adults seems pretty convincing (referring to the article Steve posted). Those 2 studies aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. The lower cholesterol one was looking at a very specific case...a certain, controlled amount of red meat intake while on a certain diet including whole grains and exercise and looking only at cholesterol numbers compared with a larger study of mortality in general while not on that diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 09:28 AM) Those 2 studies aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. The lower cholesterol one was looking at a very specific case...a certain, controlled amount of red meat intake while on a certain diet including whole grains and exercise and looking only at cholesterol numbers compared with a larger study of mortality in general while not on that diet. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 09:26 AM) That paragraph is ridiculous on many levels, mostly the final sentence which shows red meat had no health benefits over anything else whatsoever. It's the incredibly strict diet. The health benefit of red meat is it tastes yummy if cooked and seasoned properly. :9 That makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside, and that calms my nerves...which soothes my soul...all of which has to have some sort of mental or physical benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 09:04 AM) Lol, yeah that was a poor argument. Wasn't there something in the last few years about red meat lowering cholesterol? Edit: http://news.menshealth.com/beef-good-for-y...art/2011/12/20/ Eggs lower cholesterol. Oddly enough. Red meat, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 The sad thing is, for most people, it's not the high-quality, big steaks that get them in trouble, it's the fast food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 01:38 PM) The sad thing is, for most people, it's not the high-quality, big steaks that get them in trouble, it's the fast food. Yes, and that's the worst part about this... the straight up steak is at 13%, while the processed garbage is 29%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 08:54 AM) Which study are you referring to? McDonald, King et. al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 01:42 PM) Yes, and that's the worst part about this... the straight up steak is at 13%, while the processed garbage is 29%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I suppose if you consume meat at the rate of your average obese American then yes.. yes it is unhealthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 05:31 PM) i've not had a single chicken nugget since seeing that and i probably never will again. so gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Reddy @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 05:46 PM) i've not had a single chicken nugget since seeing that and i probably never will again. so gross. Not that I eat fast food or processed food very often, but that photo doesn't bother me at all. I'd be more concerned if it was something I ate on a daily basis, however. Edit: It doesn't deter me from eating future Chicken Nuggets, for example. Half of you have probably gone down on girls worse than that pic...but I'm guessing that didn't stop you. Pigs. Edited March 14, 2012 by Y2HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 07:25 PM) Not that I eat fast food or processed food very often, but that photo doesn't bother me at all. I'd be more concerned if it was something I ate on a daily basis, however. Edit: It doesn't deter me from eating future Chicken Nuggets, for example. Half of you have probably gone down on girls worse than that pic...but I'm guessing that didn't stop you. Pigs. Maybe these other guys. Hairy roast beef is a no go for me. Besides I don't attempt to get my nutrition from anything pink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ Mar 13, 2012 -> 07:44 PM) Maybe these other guys. Hairy roast beef is a no go for me. Besides I don't attempt to get my nutrition from anything pink. Eating an awesome tasting steak isn't about nutrition... Nor is eating something pink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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