LittleHurt05 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 08:52 AM) Let me be clear though...a "bigger name" wasn't what I was after...it was the "experience" at stabilizing a locker room and dealing with the youngsters the Sox needed to develop that I was interested in. I could have been content with a surprise name if it met those standards. A "bigger name" was a bit of a broad statement, as there were other factors in play as you mentioned. My point still stands that this is not the first or last time a fanbase has been critical of a coaching hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 08:52 AM) Which everyone agrees he's very good at. For those against the Groce hire, I agree, it's not exciting. But what the hell is the alternative? Reggie Theus? . Um, did you watch Hang Time? His coaching of the Deering Tornadoes was remarkable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 02:11 PM) Um, did you watch Hang Time? His coaching of the Deering Tornadoes was remarkable. Was it? That team should have been shooting nothing but 3s given that the 3-pt line was only 15 feet out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Klee and Prep Bullseye saying Jerrance is gone if Groce is hired. Even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 09:13 AM) Was it? That team should have been shooting nothing but 3s given that the 3-pt line was only 15 feet out. They won titles under him, he definitely did a better job than Dick Butkus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) At what point do you chalk up your disappointment to the fact you have unrealistic expectations? Was Weber really that big of a hire? 2 conference titles in the MVC (1 shared) 3 average seasons and 2 tourney appearances with 1 sweet sixteen. Groce's year this season mirrors alot of Webers second to last season at SIU. Took a team from under .500 to 29-8 with a sweet sixteen run. 11-5 in conference to Webers 14-4. Edited March 27, 2012 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 09:46 AM) At what point do you chalk up your disappointment to the fact you have unrealistic expectations? ^^^ The really good sounding coaches aren't in hiding so that you can't happen to think of them. What's out there is out there. Would it make the MAC haters feel better if we pretend this guy didn't coach at Ohio? Let's just say he was a highly successful lead recruiter at a top program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 03:46 PM) At what point do you chalk up your disappointment to the fact you have unrealistic expectations? Was Weber really that big of a hire? 2 conference titles in the MVC (1 shared) 3 average seasons and 2 tourney appearances with 1 sweet sixteen. Groce's year this season mirrors alot of Webers second to last season at SIU. Took a team from under .500 to 29-8 with a sweet sixteen run. 11-5 in conference to Webers 14-4. Weber coached in the far superior MVC, won at a much better rate, won the league twice, and went to the sweet sixteen. Groce is 34 and 30 in the MAC, never finished higher than third, and did go to the sweet sixteen. Oh yeah, Weber coached in the state while Groce never has. Yeah, I think its safe to say Bruce Weber was a lot better hire than John Groce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 09:18 AM) Klee and Prep Bullseye saying Jerrance is gone if Groce is hired. Even better. that doesn't make much sense to me, unless he's got some beef with Groce. Jerrance has said since day one he wants to stay at Illinois. Not sure why the coach would matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Wesley Lowery @WesleyLowery Sources have told @ThePostSports that Groce to Illinois is a "done deal" #grocewatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 12:13 PM) Wesley Lowery @WesleyLowery Sources have told @ThePostSports that Groce to Illinois is a "done deal" #grocewatch yeah, press conf at 3pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 09:18 AM) Klee and Prep Bullseye saying Jerrance is gone if Groce is hired. Even better. Jerrance would have been a better hire than Groce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 12:21 PM) Jerrance would have been a better hire than Groce. LOL, now we've officially gone off the deep end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 That is the only reason I can think that Jerrance would leave, feeling slighted that they picked Groce over him. I still think Collins is better than Groce, but well never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 12:24 PM) LOL, now we've officially gone off the deep end. Seriously. I get Groce isn't a sexy hire, but you have to trust Thomas and his ability to evaluate coaching talent in the lesser conferences. He's done it before, and now we have to see if it's legit or he just got lucky beforehand. We went after the big names, and they didn't want to come here, for whatever reason (probably because the school admin is f***ED up right now). Thus, we have to rely on Thomas and his ability to pick good, young talented coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 12:27 PM) That is the only reason I can think that Jerrance would leave, feeling slighted that they picked Groce over him. I still think Collins is better than Groce, but well never know. Jerrance is being ridiculous than, Groce has a much better pedigree than him. Collins would be a decent look at, but Thomas always hires head coaches, not assistants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 There is still some hope! Illinois Basketball @IlliniHoops Contrary to reports/sources, there will not be an #Illini press conference today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 06:21 PM) Jerrance would have been a better hire than Groce. Jerrance would have been one of the worst possible hires But perhaps you're right. At least we don't know yet whether or not he is a mediocre head coach, like Groce has proven to be, and he at least has in state connections, unlike Groce. I mean if we are going to hire a guy for simply being a good assistant coach, might as well be our own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 And what kills me is that the one thing that you have to have in college sports is a recruiter, and by all accounts, from just about everyone, the guy recruits really, really well. I'm not 100% thrilled, but they could have done much worse. He seems like a guy that really wants the job. With Shaka or Stevens, unless they had immediate success, I think you'd have to be concerned about them taking off in 4-5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 06:30 PM) There is still some hope! Illinois Basketball @IlliniHoops Contrary to reports/sources, there will not be an #Illini press conference today. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 12:31 PM) And what kills me is that the one thing that you have to have in college sports is a recruiter, and by all accounts, from just about everyone, the guy recruits really, really well. I'm not 100% thrilled, but they could have done much worse. He seems like a guy that really wants the job. With Shaka or Stevens, unless they had immediate success, I think you'd have to be concerned about them taking off in 4-5 years. If they do take him, I'll choose to look at the positives. He was a great recruiter, his team seemed to really care about him, he got the most of his players in big moments, and you have to love his intensity and desire to win. He really seems to instill confidence in his players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 When is the last time a Big Ten school hired a MAC coach? I honestly don't know. I know Geno Ford won the conference two years in a row and got rewarded with the job at Bradley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Evan Turner @thekidet Coach Groce's offense is legit. Built for guards. The big ten is going to get even better in the future. Yessir Evan Turner @thekidet @BP3 you're going to enjoy Groce's offense if he's your new coach, believe me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 ha, every major person at Illinois is denying that any decision has been made. What the hell happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Seth Davis @SethDavisHoops "People" have good jobs. AD also scaring em away RT @Devblair: why does it seem people are staying clear of the Illinois job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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