Rex Kickass Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Zimmerman charged with Murder in the Second Degree. Can result in life imprisonment. He is currently being held in custody. Here's to hoping the trial is fair and just. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 05:49 PM) Zimmerman charged with Murder in the Second Degree. Can result in life imprisonment. He is currently being held in custody. Here's to hoping the trial is fair and just. So much for no one knowing where he is at... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Yay! Now we'll get to see the evidence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 07:02 PM) So much for no one knowing where he is at... Correct, he turned himself in through his new attorneys after charges were filed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 05:49 PM) Here's to hoping the trial is fair and just. Good luck with that. I honestly feel this may be the most difficult jury to fill in a long, long, time. There has been so much publicity, speculation, press coverage . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 So from one extreme to another. No charges by 1 prosecutor, basically the highest possible charge from another (I cant really imagine Murder 1 was even considered). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 08:30 PM) Good luck with that. I honestly feel this may be the most difficult jury to fill in a long, long, time. There has been so much publicity, speculation, press coverage . . . Clearly this is an obvious case for a change of jurisdiction. If they can try the OJ case they can try this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 07:32 PM) Clearly this is an obvious case for a change of jurisdiction. If they can try the OJ case they can try this one. I agree it will need to be changed but to where? And that was the case I was trying to avoid bringing into the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 07:32 PM) So from one extreme to another. No charges by 1 prosecutor, basically the highest possible charge from another (I cant really imagine Murder 1 was even considered). Political brownie points for the prosecutor and room for a plea deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 08:37 PM) I agree it will need to be changed but to where? And that was the case I was trying to avoid bringing into the conversation. Florida has lots of metro areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I understand how the game is played. Which is why I could never understand what the first prosecutor did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) http://news.yahoo.com/why-george-zimmerman...ZXN0Aw--;_ylv=3 Five reasons Zimmerman's attorneys dumped him, point 5 is the most interesting 5. This is an elaborate ploy on Zimmerman's part to stay out of jail This whole situation might just "be part of an elaborate and not entirely crazy act of self-preservation" on Zimmerman's part, says Steve M. at No More Mister Nice Blog. Consider this: He fled Florida and contacted Hannity. Let's say he's seeking refuge in "a very red state." Having Fox News rally conservatives to his side could lead a GOP governor in such a state to "refuse to extradite Zimmerman" to Florida if Zimmerman's indicted. Maybe that's an "utterly ridiculous" theory, but this country is so crazy, I think the plan could actually work. Oops, just woke up in China to find he's actually in custody. Well, in hindsight, hiding out in rural Alabama, Mississippi or South Carolina might have turned out to be the better move. Edited April 12, 2012 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 09:09 PM) http://news.yahoo.com/why-george-zimmerman...ZXN0Aw--;_ylv=3 Five reasons Zimmerman's attorneys dumped him, point 5 is the most interesting 5. This is an elaborate ploy on Zimmerman's part to stay out of jail This whole situation might just "be part of an elaborate and not entirely crazy act of self-preservation" on Zimmerman's part, says Steve M. at No More Mister Nice Blog. Consider this: He fled Florida and contacted Hannity. Let's say he's seeking refuge in "a very red state." Having Fox News rally conservatives to his side could lead a GOP governor in such a state to "refuse to extradite Zimmerman" to Florida if Zimmerman's indicted. Maybe that's an "utterly ridiculous" theory, but this country is so crazy, I think the plan could actually work. Zimmerman is already in custody in the state of Florida. Despite how bizarre his actions the last couple days were, he did everything appropriately today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 08:13 PM) Zimmerman is already in custody in the state of Florida. Despite how bizarre his actions the last couple days were, he did everything appropriately today. The next thing will be keeping him "safe and secure" and away from anyone who might want to wish him harm. While not exactly Jeffrey Dahmer, he's definitely got a target on his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 09:14 PM) The next thing will be keeping him "safe and secure" and away from anyone who might want to wish him harm. While not exactly Jeffrey Dahmer, he's definitely got a target on his head. The Special Prosecutor declined to state where he was being held at in her conference today, and that's the right move on her part. So far, the Special Prosecutor has done her job effectively and as far as I can tell, didn't say anything she wasn't supposed to say in her press conference. Having anything happen to Zimmerman in prison would be a horrible thing. He deserves his chance to defend himself. That would be the worst thing that could happen to the state in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 lol No state is going to refuse to transfer a criminal back to their home state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 wonder who will bail zim out of jail? hannity maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 07:20 PM) The Special Prosecutor declined to state where he was being held at in her conference today, and that's the right move on her part. So far, the Special Prosecutor has done her job effectively and as far as I can tell, didn't say anything she wasn't supposed to say in her press conference. Having anything happen to Zimmerman in prison would be a horrible thing. He deserves his chance to defend himself. That would be the worst thing that could happen to the state in this case. I'm sure she's pleased that you approve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 08:09 PM) http://news.yahoo.com/why-george-zimmerman...ZXN0Aw--;_ylv=3 Five reasons Zimmerman's attorneys dumped him, point 5 is the most interesting 5. This is an elaborate ploy on Zimmerman's part to stay out of jail This whole situation might just "be part of an elaborate and not entirely crazy act of self-preservation" on Zimmerman's part, says Steve M. at No More Mister Nice Blog. Consider this: He fled Florida and contacted Hannity. Let's say he's seeking refuge in "a very red state." Having Fox News rally conservatives to his side could lead a GOP governor in such a state to "refuse to extradite Zimmerman" to Florida if Zimmerman's indicted. Maybe that's an "utterly ridiculous" theory, but this country is so crazy, I think the plan could actually work. Oops, just woke up in China to find he's actually in custody. Well, in hindsight, hiding out in rural Alabama, Mississippi or South Carolina might have turned out to be the better move. The whole "NO ONE KNOWS WHERE HE IS" thing was complete garbage. Only the media didn't know where he was. Obviously the authorities did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 12, 2012 -> 08:32 AM) The whole "NO ONE KNOWS WHERE HE IS" thing was complete garbage. Only the media didn't know where he was. Obviously the authorities did. His former lawyers specifically stated that they did not know where he was. That's more than just the media. That was at least a very surreal day, between him launching a geocities page with a couple very poorly chosen images and his lawyers giving that press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 12, 2012 -> 08:20 AM) His former lawyers specifically stated that they did not know where he was. That's more than just the media. That was at least a very surreal day, between him launching a geocities page with a couple very poorly chosen images and his lawyers giving that press conference. His former lawyers. Not law enforcement, not the NO ONE that got screamed, but his former lawyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 Zimmerman's former attny: UHRIG: This has been a terribly corrosive process. George Zimmerman, in our opinion and from information made available to us, is not doing well emotionally and probably suffering from posttraumatic stress syndrome. We understand from others that he may have lost a lot of weight. George can`t get in the car and drive down to the office center and go in and see a psychologist. George can`t go down to the 7-Eleven and buy a Diet Coke. There`s a bounty out on his head. Zimmerman's current attny: In trying to portray his client in as sympathetic terms as possible, Zimmerman’s new attorney Mark O’Mara said this evening that Zimmerman is “troubled by everything that has happened.” O’Mara added, “Truly, it must be frightening to not be able to not be able to go into a 7/11 or into a store and literally to be in fact a prisoner wherever he was." There must be a stronger word than "irony" to describe this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 12, 2012 -> 08:34 AM) Zimmerman's former attny: Zimmerman's current attny: There must be a stronger word than "irony" to describe this. Painting him as the victim is going to be 100% of the strategy here. The threats on the guys life and the glare of the media spotlight really aren't going to help stop that from working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 12, 2012 -> 09:38 AM) Painting him as the victim is going to be 100% of the strategy here. The threats on the guys life and the glare of the media spotlight really aren't going to help stop that from working. That shouldn't matter in a court of law though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 12, 2012 -> 08:39 AM) That shouldn't matter in a court of law though. In a case predicated on him claiming some sort of self-defense? Yeah, right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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