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QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Mar 24, 2012 -> 07:31 PM)
My question was, why move Viciedo away from RF when he is going to end up there in a couple years when Rios leaves anyway? Let the kid learn a position.

 

DJ's answer was that Rios has more trade value in RF than in LF. lol. Like that matters at all at this point. Then he also said it's better if Viciedo is more versatile and can learn as many positions as he can, rather than just stay in one spot. Dumb, dumb answers.

 

 

What's more idiotic is playing DeAza in CF then.

 

Rios somehow has a lot of value in RF but he wouldn't in LF? It doesn't really matter which corner OF spot he plays. C'mon, if you're going to put up an OPS in the 650-700 range, it better be in CF, playing "plus" defense.

 

Basically they're acknowleding that Rios was crap last year in CF and they don't trust him to play that position, but it's not like anyone is beating down our doors to acquire DeAza, and he's super cheap.

 

Granted, there would be more takers for Alejandro due to his contract, but that's a pretty weak argument.

 

Wasn't the whole point of acquiring Rios to fix the gaping hole in CF present since 2006?

It wasn't to replace Carlos Quentin in RF with Alex Rios, that's for sure.

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QUOTE (sunofgold @ Mar 24, 2012 -> 10:39 PM)
Yeah, lame answers. However, how do you know that Viciedo is going to end up in RF? A lot can happen in a couple of years.

 

Ok, well the "plan" is to have Viciedo is RF, or at least it should be. He has a cannon arm, no need to throw that arm in LF. Now, of course, if we acquire a good defensive RF with a great arm, then that's fine, but you shouldn't plan on your future hoping to acquire a position, you should fill it with your minor leaguers until something comes up.

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de Aza in CF makes perfect sense. He's good at it and has worked himself up to a status where we believe he may be a long-term CF. The dumb thing would have been to play him in a corner while the futureless Rios roams CF.

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QUOTE (Jake @ Mar 25, 2012 -> 08:42 AM)
de Aza in CF makes perfect sense. He's good at it and has worked himself up to a status where we believe he may be a long-term CF. The dumb thing would have been to play him in a corner while the futureless Rios roams CF.

 

But the problem, of course, is that we're stuck with that futureless Rios and almost $40 million on the books for two more years. As a corner OFer, he's even more worthless to another organization...if playing him in CF will convince another team to not force us to include his entire contract in subsidy, that could save us $10-15 million going forward.

 

How confident are we that DeAza will still be the starting CF on Opening Day, 2013?

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 24, 2012 -> 06:01 PM)
I thought we were playing in Arlington.

 

Do we have an exhibition game against the Astros before that, haven't looked at the schedule?

 

Yes, the Sox play in Houston on April 3rd and 4th. They're setting the roster before they leave.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 25, 2012 -> 09:56 AM)
But the problem, of course, is that we're stuck with that futureless Rios and almost $40 million on the books for two more years. As a corner OFer, he's even more worthless to another organization...if playing him in CF will convince another team to not force us to include his entire contract in subsidy, that could save us $10-15 million going forward.

 

How confident are we that DeAza will still be the starting CF on Opening Day, 2013?

 

Trying to give value to the valueless Rios is just dumb at this point. He should be thanking his lucky stars he gets to bat at all, I'm not going to screw over a center field prospect to put a non-CF in front of him. Chances are Rios just isn't going to gain value, so we aren't going to hold back CF prospects who may have huge value if they pan out. If not de Aza, there are several guys we can run out there who will play better D and if they hit, would suddenly be valuable pieces the organization. At this point, even a good year from Rios does not mean that he has much value. He's a White Sox until that contract ends, but that doesn't mean he needs to be in center or anywhere at all.

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